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Who controls the US Capitol Police? I remind you that they obeyed Trump during the January 6th insurrection. And of course, the executive branch has everyone f

Who controls the US Capitol Police? I remind you that they obeyed Trump during the January 6th insurrection. And of course, the executive branch has everyone from the FBI on down, you're not going to win a shooting (or shoving) war with them.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
Well, we are in a very volatile place if members of Congress can successfully be barred from government property by Elon Musk. https://bsky.app/profile/newsguy.bsky.social/post/3lhcadi7oys2m https://bsky.app/profile/newsguy.bsky.social/post/3lhcadi7oy...
- cle 2y ago
  This seems like an inevitable outcome of indefinite growth in executive power. > If there are no consequences, the law is immaterial. That is exactly what I mean by "growth in executive power".
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    I disagree. This is the outcome of someone who doesn't believe in the law acting accordingly. If there are no consequences, the law is immaterial. If the law is to remain intact, show up with force and enforce it. Checks and balances within the branches of federal government. Edit: DOJ Says Administration Doesnt Have to Follow Court Order Halting Funding Freeze - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42923302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42923302 So much for checks and balances I suppose.
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      Congressional Research Service: USAID Under the Trump Administration - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 - Feb 20205
  - vkou 2y ago
    It's the inevitable outcome of a judiciary packed with lifetime appointments who put the traitor who appointed them over country.
- HumblyTossed 2y ago
  It's called a coup. How long until Elon dismisses Trump? Let that sink in...
  - AtlasBarfed 2y ago
    Musk is a convenient fool for the trump administration. He will be cast aside and scapegoated in less than 6months. He might end up in jail in 2-4 years.
    - beAbU 2y ago
      The Musk-Trump breakup will truly be the breakup of the century.
    - modriano 2y ago
      > He might end up in jail in 2-4 years. You think the Trump administration is going to prosecute the wealthiest person on earth? Attention and wealth are the currencies of Trumpian politics, and I would be shocked to see Trump try to fight someone with such a massive ability to direct attention (via control over twitter and through having hundreds of billions of dollars).
      - zombiwoof 2y ago
        If Trump can make money on it, he will put anyone in jail. Musk is such an easy target, Trump could take him down in a heartbeat , freeze his assets and put ownership of his companies in his control. And let me state this as clear as I can: this would all be perfectly legal “official acts”
    - moogly 2y ago
      You cannot practically imprison the richest man in the world. He'd end up running the place like a king, like El Chapo did. The only way forward is to exile him to Mars.
    - 1659447091 2y ago
      > Musk is a convenient fool for the trump administration. Exactly this. And he doesn't even see it. There will be no "Elon dismisses Trump". Elon is not a natural born US citizen, Trump is. Trump wins, because if one has been paying attention, the people who put Trump in office don't like immigrants all that much.
- jaggederest 2y ago
  > we are in a very volatile place Understatement of (this) century at least.
- chgs 2y ago
  We’ve seen that in Korea very recently.
- jquery 2y ago
  Look at the comments. It's only been two weeks, and people are already tired of members of Congress running to the media after Musk does something illegal. They want these members to force the police to arrest them on behalf of Musk. I'm in agreement. These people are softer than tissue paper. Where's the energy South Korean representatives had when their President declared martial law?
sockp0pp3t 2y ago
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gortok 2y ago
> Who controls the US Capitol Police? I remind you that they obeyed Trump during the January 6th insurrection. [Citation Needed]. Seriously. Heck, even a cursory read of the Wikipedia article would tell you they are controlled by the Legislative branch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police > The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is a federal law enforcement agency in the United States with nationwide jurisdiction charged with protecting the United States Congress within the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its territories. It answers to the Capitol Police Board and is the only full-service federal law enforcement agency appointed by the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States. Misinformation is infectious.
jaredwiener 2y ago
https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight The Capitol Police Board oversees and supports the United States Capitol Police in its mission and helps to advance coordination between the Department and the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Representatives and the Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the Senate, in their law enforcement capacities, and the Congress. Consistent with this purpose, the Capitol Police Board establishes general goals and objectives covering its major functions and operations to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of its operations. The Capitol Police Board consists of the Sergeant at Arms of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the U.S. Senate, and the Architect of the Capitol. The Chief of the United States Capitol Police serves in an ex-officio non-voting capacity. The Chairmanship alternates annually between the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

Well, we are in a very volatile place if members of Congress can successfully be barred from government property by Elon Musk. https://bsky.app/profile/newsguy.bsky.social/post/3lhcadi7oys2m https://bsky.app/profile/newsguy.bsky.social/post/3lhcadi7oy...

cle 2y ago
This seems like an inevitable outcome of indefinite growth in executive power. > If there are no consequences, the law is immaterial. That is exactly what I mean by "growth in executive power".
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  I disagree. This is the outcome of someone who doesn't believe in the law acting accordingly. If there are no consequences, the law is immaterial. If the law is to remain intact, show up with force and enforce it. Checks and balances within the branches of federal government. Edit: DOJ Says Administration Doesnt Have to Follow Court Order Halting Funding Freeze - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42923302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42923302 So much for checks and balances I suppose.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Congressional Research Service: USAID Under the Trump Administration - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 - Feb 20205
- vkou 2y ago
  It's the inevitable outcome of a judiciary packed with lifetime appointments who put the traitor who appointed them over country.
HumblyTossed 2y ago
It's called a coup. How long until Elon dismisses Trump? Let that sink in...
- AtlasBarfed 2y ago
  Musk is a convenient fool for the trump administration. He will be cast aside and scapegoated in less than 6months. He might end up in jail in 2-4 years.
  - beAbU 2y ago
    The Musk-Trump breakup will truly be the breakup of the century.
  - modriano 2y ago
    > He might end up in jail in 2-4 years. You think the Trump administration is going to prosecute the wealthiest person on earth? Attention and wealth are the currencies of Trumpian politics, and I would be shocked to see Trump try to fight someone with such a massive ability to direct attention (via control over twitter and through having hundreds of billions of dollars).
    - zombiwoof 2y ago
      If Trump can make money on it, he will put anyone in jail. Musk is such an easy target, Trump could take him down in a heartbeat , freeze his assets and put ownership of his companies in his control. And let me state this as clear as I can: this would all be perfectly legal “official acts”
  - moogly 2y ago
    You cannot practically imprison the richest man in the world. He'd end up running the place like a king, like El Chapo did. The only way forward is to exile him to Mars.
  - 1659447091 2y ago
    > Musk is a convenient fool for the trump administration. Exactly this. And he doesn't even see it. There will be no "Elon dismisses Trump". Elon is not a natural born US citizen, Trump is. Trump wins, because if one has been paying attention, the people who put Trump in office don't like immigrants all that much.
jaggederest 2y ago
> we are in a very volatile place Understatement of (this) century at least.
chgs 2y ago
We’ve seen that in Korea very recently.
jquery 2y ago
Look at the comments. It's only been two weeks, and people are already tired of members of Congress running to the media after Musk does something illegal. They want these members to force the police to arrest them on behalf of Musk. I'm in agreement. These people are softer than tissue paper. Where's the energy South Korean representatives had when their President declared martial law?

sockp0pp3t 2y ago

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gortok 2y ago

> Who controls the US Capitol Police? I remind you that they obeyed Trump during the January 6th insurrection. [Citation Needed]. Seriously. Heck, even a cursory read of the Wikipedia article would tell you they are controlled by the Legislative branch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police > The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is a federal law enforcement agency in the United States with nationwide jurisdiction charged with protecting the United States Congress within the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its territories. It answers to the Capitol Police Board and is the only full-service federal law enforcement agency appointed by the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States. Misinformation is infectious.

jaredwiener 2y ago

https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight The Capitol Police Board oversees and supports the United States Capitol Police in its mission and helps to advance coordination between the Department and the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Representatives and the Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the Senate, in their law enforcement capacities, and the Congress. Consistent with this purpose, the Capitol Police Board establishes general goals and objectives covering its major functions and operations to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of its operations. The Capitol Police Board consists of the Sergeant at Arms of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the U.S. Senate, and the Architect of the Capitol. The Chief of the United States Capitol Police serves in an ex-officio non-voting capacity. The Chairmanship alternates annually between the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms.