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> But the people are getting what they voted for I think that’s extremely debatable. Last I checked “unauthorized access to confidential taxpayer information”

> But the people are getting what they voted for I think that’s extremely debatable. Last I checked “unauthorized access to confidential taxpayer information” was not an election topic. This is true on all sides of course, folks who voted for Obama didn’t vote for drone strikes against US citizens either. Winning a presidential election does not mean four years of dictatorship and silencing of criticism.

Spooky23 2y ago
We (supposedly) elected a king. He’s exempt from all rule of law save spineless congressmen. Whether most of the people doing so were smart enough to understand it is a good question, but the fact is we put a Perón-like figure into office, and only age will likely make him leave.
germinalphrase 2y ago
FWIW, people thought that when Obama ran around saying “these extrajudicial drone strikes are illegal” they assumed that he would end them rather than do what he actually did - make them legal. Power Wars by Charlie Savage covers this rhetorical zig zag.
CamperBob2 2y ago
I think that’s extremely debatable. Last I checked “unauthorized access to confidential taxpayer information” was not an election topic Gee, I'm shocked, shocked, that a guy who stole large numbers of classified documents on his way out the door and stuffed them in unused bathrooms in his house(s) would fail to safeguard confidential taxpayer information. You're right, it wasn't an election topic. Nobody who had any power cared to make it one, nobody who cared had the power... and nobody else was paying attention.
krapp 2y ago
I don't think it's extremely debatable. Obama didn't run on drone strikes, but everything Trump is doing has been a part of the Trumpist or Republican fringe platform for years. The Republicans have wanted to defund and destroy government ever since Grover Norquist said he wanted government to be small enough to drown in a bathtub. Purging academia of DEI and "woke," aggressive anti-immigration policies, tariffs, rule through executive order, none of it is new, all of it is established, boilerplate Trump-era Republican doctrine. Trump ran on "draining the swamp." This is what "draining the swamp" means. The only real exception to the norm seems to be Trump's sudden hard-on for invading Greenland and Canada.But even then you can look back at his infamous comments on not wanting immigration from "shithole countries" like Haiti versus places like Norway, or his comments on Mexico sending rapists over the border, and see how he might want to forcibly annex a few million white people to balance out the scales of white replacement or whatever racist paranoid shit goes on in his head. I don't know. But let's please stop pretending no one who voted for Trump knew who he was or what he was about, or that what's happening now is not in effect what many Trump supporters wanted.
- maxerickson 2y ago
  What happened to all that soaring rhetoric about the tyranny of the majority?

Spooky23 2y ago

We (supposedly) elected a king. He’s exempt from all rule of law save spineless congressmen. Whether most of the people doing so were smart enough to understand it is a good question, but the fact is we put a Perón-like figure into office, and only age will likely make him leave.

germinalphrase 2y ago

FWIW, people thought that when Obama ran around saying “these extrajudicial drone strikes are illegal” they assumed that he would end them rather than do what he actually did - make them legal. Power Wars by Charlie Savage covers this rhetorical zig zag.

CamperBob2 2y ago

I think that’s extremely debatable. Last I checked “unauthorized access to confidential taxpayer information” was not an election topic Gee, I'm shocked, shocked, that a guy who stole large numbers of classified documents on his way out the door and stuffed them in unused bathrooms in his house(s) would fail to safeguard confidential taxpayer information. You're right, it wasn't an election topic. Nobody who had any power cared to make it one, nobody who cared had the power... and nobody else was paying attention.

krapp 2y ago

I don't think it's extremely debatable. Obama didn't run on drone strikes, but everything Trump is doing has been a part of the Trumpist or Republican fringe platform for years. The Republicans have wanted to defund and destroy government ever since Grover Norquist said he wanted government to be small enough to drown in a bathtub. Purging academia of DEI and "woke," aggressive anti-immigration policies, tariffs, rule through executive order, none of it is new, all of it is established, boilerplate Trump-era Republican doctrine. Trump ran on "draining the swamp." This is what "draining the swamp" means. The only real exception to the norm seems to be Trump's sudden hard-on for invading Greenland and Canada.But even then you can look back at his infamous comments on not wanting immigration from "shithole countries" like Haiti versus places like Norway, or his comments on Mexico sending rapists over the border, and see how he might want to forcibly annex a few million white people to balance out the scales of white replacement or whatever racist paranoid shit goes on in his head. I don't know. But let's please stop pretending no one who voted for Trump knew who he was or what he was about, or that what's happening now is not in effect what many Trump supporters wanted.

maxerickson 2y ago
What happened to all that soaring rhetoric about the tyranny of the majority?