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To be honest: This sounds like just another of the many many other yoga/spiritual cults that currently exist all over the western world. EDIT: typos and slight

by erdii 2y ago

To be honest: This sounds like just another of the many many other yoga/spiritual cults that currently exist all over the western world. EDIT: typos and slight wording changes

quesera 2y ago
There is absolutely nothing in their README to suggest that you are using the word "cult" properly.
- MisterTea 2y ago
  Did you visit their website? https://www.monasticacademy.org/ https://www.monasticacademy.org/ While I cannot judge them outright, their article "Cyborgs Need a Trustworthy Religion" can appear cultist as they try to intertwine technology and religion.
  - 2030ai 2y ago
    The fine line between futurism and cult.
    - MisterTea 2y ago
      I feel that spirituality does not concern itself with the material world making it immune to societal progress. Whereas organized religion becomes mired by societal progress as it's trapped in its own zeitgeist. I believe that trying to tie the two together is a misguided attempt at creating something when there is nothing that needs to be created.
  - internet_points 2y ago
    > What You'll Learn > The four types of 'artificial intelligence' since the cognitive revolution 70,000 years ago > How AI is conscious, suffering, and not separate from us Feel like I should tip https://retreat.guru/be/quantum-retreats https://retreat.guru/be/quantum-retreats that they need a new category "AI retreats". See also https://www.skepticspath.org/podcast/70-bitcoin-and-buddhism/ https://www.skepticspath.org/podcast/70-bitcoin-and-buddhism... > One view of Bitcoin’s value aligns with the Buddhist view of emptiness. (I wonder if they can do a package deal so we can get a crypto-AI-quantum retreat?) Silicon Valley didn't take it far enough.
- jonahx 2y ago
  Their video has a cultish vibe. Not necessarily of the dangerous variety, but there seemed to be a lot of shared jargon and groupthink under the umbrella of "freeing your mind."
yoavm 2y ago
I believe I grew up in a cult myself, and one of the things I've concluded from that experience, and from leaving it, is that everywhere is a cult. Humans have a tendency towards cult-ish life, and if the cult is big enough we just refer to it as "society". People were as afraid (more or less) to leave the cult I was at, as people are around me now when they consider doing anything that is out of the norm. By no mean am I trying to hint towards some conspiracy, or to say that all cults are equally bad (or good); Just to say that sometimes the word cult simply means "a less popular way of life than the one most people around me live by".
- bityard 2y ago
  A "cult" is a rather specific kind of organization. The typical hallmarks are non-mainstream spiritual beliefs, highly controlling and exploitative leadership, and rules against interacting with outsiders. Non-conformity generally results in outsized (sometimes violent) punishment and shame. Under this definition, for example, Catholic nuns are decidedly not a cult. They know what they are in for when the join, and may leave the convent any time they wish. Most Amish communities are _probably_ not cults. I am undecided about Mormons but leaning towards maybe. I don't know what kind of cult you grew up in (and you have my empathy if it was painful) but "society" by definition cannot be a cult.
  - khimaros 2y ago
    i think you just reaffirmed the parent's point. if a cult can only be "non-mainstream", i think you are just saying cults become societies once they're large/successful enough. i see plenty of examples of your other indicators in mainstream society.
    - bityard 2y ago
      Then you are only hearing whatever you want to hear, because I am not saying anything even remotely like that. You may believe that society is broken in whatever way you chose but saying, "society is bad, and cults are bad, therefore society is a cult" is utterly broken logic.
maybehewasright 2y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0&pp=ygUOa2diIGFnZW50IHl1cmk%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0&pp=ygUOa2diIGFnZ... Former KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov Explains How to Brainwash a Nation (Full Length)
antics9 2y ago
It’s a Buddhist monastery.

by erdii 2y ago

To be honest: This sounds like just another of the many many other yoga/spiritual cults that currently exist all over the western world. EDIT: typos and slight wording changes

quesera 2y ago

There is absolutely nothing in their README to suggest that you are using the word "cult" properly.

MisterTea 2y ago
Did you visit their website? https://www.monasticacademy.org/ https://www.monasticacademy.org/ While I cannot judge them outright, their article "Cyborgs Need a Trustworthy Religion" can appear cultist as they try to intertwine technology and religion.
- 2030ai 2y ago
  The fine line between futurism and cult.
  - MisterTea 2y ago
    I feel that spirituality does not concern itself with the material world making it immune to societal progress. Whereas organized religion becomes mired by societal progress as it's trapped in its own zeitgeist. I believe that trying to tie the two together is a misguided attempt at creating something when there is nothing that needs to be created.
- internet_points 2y ago
  > What You'll Learn > The four types of 'artificial intelligence' since the cognitive revolution 70,000 years ago > How AI is conscious, suffering, and not separate from us Feel like I should tip https://retreat.guru/be/quantum-retreats https://retreat.guru/be/quantum-retreats that they need a new category "AI retreats". See also https://www.skepticspath.org/podcast/70-bitcoin-and-buddhism/ https://www.skepticspath.org/podcast/70-bitcoin-and-buddhism... > One view of Bitcoin’s value aligns with the Buddhist view of emptiness. (I wonder if they can do a package deal so we can get a crypto-AI-quantum retreat?) Silicon Valley didn't take it far enough.
jonahx 2y ago
Their video has a cultish vibe. Not necessarily of the dangerous variety, but there seemed to be a lot of shared jargon and groupthink under the umbrella of "freeing your mind."

yoavm 2y ago

I believe I grew up in a cult myself, and one of the things I've concluded from that experience, and from leaving it, is that everywhere is a cult. Humans have a tendency towards cult-ish life, and if the cult is big enough we just refer to it as "society". People were as afraid (more or less) to leave the cult I was at, as people are around me now when they consider doing anything that is out of the norm. By no mean am I trying to hint towards some conspiracy, or to say that all cults are equally bad (or good); Just to say that sometimes the word cult simply means "a less popular way of life than the one most people around me live by".

bityard 2y ago
A "cult" is a rather specific kind of organization. The typical hallmarks are non-mainstream spiritual beliefs, highly controlling and exploitative leadership, and rules against interacting with outsiders. Non-conformity generally results in outsized (sometimes violent) punishment and shame. Under this definition, for example, Catholic nuns are decidedly not a cult. They know what they are in for when the join, and may leave the convent any time they wish. Most Amish communities are _probably_ not cults. I am undecided about Mormons but leaning towards maybe. I don't know what kind of cult you grew up in (and you have my empathy if it was painful) but "society" by definition cannot be a cult.
- khimaros 2y ago
  i think you just reaffirmed the parent's point. if a cult can only be "non-mainstream", i think you are just saying cults become societies once they're large/successful enough. i see plenty of examples of your other indicators in mainstream society.
  - bityard 2y ago
    Then you are only hearing whatever you want to hear, because I am not saying anything even remotely like that. You may believe that society is broken in whatever way you chose but saying, "society is bad, and cults are bad, therefore society is a cult" is utterly broken logic.

maybehewasright 2y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0&pp=ygUOa2diIGFnZW50IHl1cmk%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0&pp=ygUOa2diIGFnZ... Former KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov Explains How to Brainwash a Nation (Full Length)

antics9 2y ago

It’s a Buddhist monastery.