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Yeah Cardi B is pop music. And whoever heard of Lauryn Hill, Salt-n-Peppa, Erykah Badu, Eve, Lil Kim, Queen Latifah, Missy Elliot?

• busterarm 2y ago
  You're talking about basically 30 years ago. That's an entire previous generation. Not speaking disrespectfully but none of who you mentioned have mainstream cultural relevance in _today's hip hop_. Kim and Missy come closest. If your argument is going to be that New York is the cultural center of hip hop, who from New York is representing today's hip hop? Who is selling the albums?
  • namaria 2y ago
    My argument was that one of the most American things ever (hip hop) is actually rooted in NY. The rest is a response to 'hip hop heads don't listen to female artists' so I mentioned a bunch of heavyweights. This can degenerate into 'no real scotsman' so whatever. There is today a whole lot of pop artists that use hip hop aesthetics, but as usual the real stuff is very much underground.
    • tialaramex 2y ago
      The fallacy is actually named "No True Scotsman" for whatever that's worth.
      • namaria 2y ago
        C'mon really? In the Book of Fallacies they used the other word? Talk about pedantism.