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That’s funny, I thought at one point I saw vouch link for comments, but no longer. I doubt I used it more than once. Does that mean it got taken away?

justin66 2y ago
I couldn't say for sure but... I think so? It's the same for me, I used to have it and now I don't.
- dang 2y ago
  In your case that was true. General explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902318 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902318. I didn't see much misuse of vouching in your recent history so I've removed that penalty from your account now. But please make sure that the comments you're vouching for are respecting the site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).
  - zfg 2y ago
    Why don't you make such things transparent and clear on a user's account so they can see what you've done? You're keen on reviewing a user's recent history, but provide no corresponding transparency to the user on what you've done.
    - dang 2y ago
      Because I'm scared of how much extra work it would create, and because it's the sort of frog-boiling bureaucratism that it is in the spirit of this site to avoid. It's easy for me to imagine that one day I would wake up and be horrified by the systems we had inadvertently let sprout up around ourselves. HN works best with informal systems, not formal ones. The informal contract around transparency is: people are welcome to ask questions and we always answer them, but we don't formally publish a moderation log or anything like that (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20moderation%20log&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...).
      - deleted 2y ago
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      - zfg 2y ago
        > I call it frog-boiling because it's easy for me to imagine that one day I would wake up and be horrified by the systems we had inadvertently let spring up around ourselves. You're already removing the ability of users to vouch. That frog is boiled. I'm saying tell them on their user page. Include a line that only they can see which says "can no longer vouch" or similar. That way they know what's happened instead of having to guess what's happened.
mostlysimilar 2y ago
I have been trying to bring Musk and DOGE topics to light all week and have lost the ability to vouch as a consequence.
- dang 2y ago
  You haven't lost the ability to vouch.
  - freedomben 2y ago
    Meta note, but seriously thank you for being so transparent about this! It's a big part of why I love and trust HN
dang 2y ago
It didn't get taken away. Not sure why you didn't see it where you expected to but there's no issue with your account.
- relaxing 2y ago
  Thank you. I didn’t realize the vouch link doesn’t show up in the main threads.
unsnap_biceps 2y ago
You have to go to the specific comment (click on the timestamp) and vouch is available there.

justin66 2y ago

I couldn't say for sure but... I think so? It's the same for me, I used to have it and now I don't.

dang 2y ago
In your case that was true. General explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902318 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902318. I didn't see much misuse of vouching in your recent history so I've removed that penalty from your account now. But please make sure that the comments you're vouching for are respecting the site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).
- zfg 2y ago
  Why don't you make such things transparent and clear on a user's account so they can see what you've done? You're keen on reviewing a user's recent history, but provide no corresponding transparency to the user on what you've done.
  - dang 2y ago
    Because I'm scared of how much extra work it would create, and because it's the sort of frog-boiling bureaucratism that it is in the spirit of this site to avoid. It's easy for me to imagine that one day I would wake up and be horrified by the systems we had inadvertently let sprout up around ourselves. HN works best with informal systems, not formal ones. The informal contract around transparency is: people are welcome to ask questions and we always answer them, but we don't formally publish a moderation log or anything like that (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20moderation%20log&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...).
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - zfg 2y ago
      > I call it frog-boiling because it's easy for me to imagine that one day I would wake up and be horrified by the systems we had inadvertently let spring up around ourselves. You're already removing the ability of users to vouch. That frog is boiled. I'm saying tell them on their user page. Include a line that only they can see which says "can no longer vouch" or similar. That way they know what's happened instead of having to guess what's happened.

mostlysimilar 2y ago

I have been trying to bring Musk and DOGE topics to light all week and have lost the ability to vouch as a consequence.

dang 2y ago
You haven't lost the ability to vouch.
- freedomben 2y ago
  Meta note, but seriously thank you for being so transparent about this! It's a big part of why I love and trust HN

dang 2y ago

It didn't get taken away. Not sure why you didn't see it where you expected to but there's no issue with your account.

relaxing 2y ago
Thank you. I didn’t realize the vouch link doesn’t show up in the main threads.

unsnap_biceps 2y ago

You have to go to the specific comment (click on the timestamp) and vouch is available there.