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I don't see the cognitive dissonance here. If a model was applying for a position with a cosmetics company, they might want to see what the blank canvas looks l

I don't see the cognitive dissonance here. If a model was applying for a position with a cosmetics company, they might want to see what the blank canvas looks like. Being able to gauge a candidate's natural communication skills is highly useful. If you're an ineffective communicator, there's a good chance your comprehension skills are also deficient.

nertirs1 2y ago
The same could be said about a lot of things, like being able to write a functional solution to a leet code puzzle on a black board in front of an audience. IMHO, an effective interview process should attempt to mimic the position for which a person is applying. Making a candidate jump through hoops is a bit disrespectful.
- ecocentrik 2y ago
  IMO the interview process should help the employer correctly identify qualified candidates. Respect for the candidates is important but some candidates should absolutely be prepared to jump through hoops.
  - lupire 2y ago
    Jumping through hoops isn't the only way to demonstrate professional skill. I am the lion tamer, not the lion.
mathgeek 2y ago
> If you're an ineffective communicator, there's a good chance your comprehension skills are also deficient. We are quickly moving into a world where most communications are at best assisted by AI and more often have little human input at all. There’s nothing inherently “wrong” about that (we all have opinions there), but “natural” (quotes to emphasize that they’re taught and not natural anyway) communication skills are going to be less and less common as time marches on, much like handwriting, typewriting, calligraphy, etc.
- ThrowawayR2 2y ago
  One of the oldest computing principles is "garbage in, garbage out". The person with better native communication skills and AI will still outshine the one that does not with AI because the best AI in the world isn't going to recover signal when there is only noise.
  - mathgeek 2y ago
    Agreed for native skills, yes.

nertirs1 2y ago

The same could be said about a lot of things, like being able to write a functional solution to a leet code puzzle on a black board in front of an audience. IMHO, an effective interview process should attempt to mimic the position for which a person is applying. Making a candidate jump through hoops is a bit disrespectful.

ecocentrik 2y ago
IMO the interview process should help the employer correctly identify qualified candidates. Respect for the candidates is important but some candidates should absolutely be prepared to jump through hoops.
- lupire 2y ago
  Jumping through hoops isn't the only way to demonstrate professional skill. I am the lion tamer, not the lion.

mathgeek 2y ago

> If you're an ineffective communicator, there's a good chance your comprehension skills are also deficient. We are quickly moving into a world where most communications are at best assisted by AI and more often have little human input at all. There’s nothing inherently “wrong” about that (we all have opinions there), but “natural” (quotes to emphasize that they’re taught and not natural anyway) communication skills are going to be less and less common as time marches on, much like handwriting, typewriting, calligraphy, etc.

ThrowawayR2 2y ago
One of the oldest computing principles is "garbage in, garbage out". The person with better native communication skills and AI will still outshine the one that does not with AI because the best AI in the world isn't going to recover signal when there is only noise.
- mathgeek 2y ago
  Agreed for native skills, yes.