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London Street Views (1840)

172 points by jfil 2y ago

fritzo 2y ago
Feature request, can someone integrate this into the DOOM engine so one can navigate 19th century london?
- SamBam 2y ago
  I was going to say, that or put it into a Google Street View style map. That would be amazing.
mediumsmart 2y ago
looks great once you zoom in but I don't get it. how do I open one of them to look at it - I can only zoom into the whole mosaic - why can I not click on one of them and bring it to the front or go to a page that deals with that view/street?
- jesprenj 2y ago
  You can't, because it's a single composite image of all of them.
- Brybry 2y ago
  I think this is 1 to 77 but I couldn't find/figure out a search for 78 to 88 https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/view/search?search=Submit+Query&dateRangeStart=&dateRangeEnd=&cat=0&q=%3DTallis%20London%20Street%20Views%20AND%20type%3DAtlas%20Map%20AND%20obj_height_cm%3D15%20AND%20obj_width_cm%3D%2246%22&sort=pub_list_no_initialsort%2Cpub_date%2Cpub_list_no%2Cseries_no&os=0 https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/view/search?search=...
tkgally 2y ago
It’s quite a bit more recent, but this reminded me of David Bleicher’s Instagram page “Then and Now London.” He takes photographs in the same London locations as photos taken decades ago and puts them side by side: https://www.instagram.com/thenandnowlondon/ https://www.instagram.com/thenandnowlondon/
- hnlmorg 2y ago
  That’s a nice find. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately it’s very hard to enjoy these kinds of blogging now that Meta have completely locked up the internet.
- kqr 2y ago
  This is also sometimes known as rephotography. Some of the most striking examples I've seen seamlessly blend the old and new. Such as this campus location, which really illustrates how similar people are across time: https://blogs.ubc.ca/difficultknowledge/files/2016/09/UBCLibrary.jpg https://blogs.ubc.ca/difficultknowledge/files/2016/09/UBCLib...
- s_weber 2y ago
  You can find more "then and now pictures" (rephotography) on re.photos. It has an archive of around 3000 pictures from around the world. (I developed the website as a final project during my studies. It's a bit dated but still alive and kicking.) https://www.re.photos/en/compilation/ https://www.re.photos/en/compilation/
Lio 2y ago
I love seeing the (1840) in the title. For a split second it makes my pre-coffee brain think, my god that’s an old post!
- chrizel 2y ago
  I was shortly excited because I expected Google Street View from the 1840s, oh well...
  - jll29 2y ago
    That's what should me made of the old 2D maps. Should be possiblel thanks to LLMs now.
  - jfil 2y ago
    Once you zoom into the individual maps, you can see that this is as close to Google Streetview as they could get at the time. It was surprising to realize it's basically the same thing.
seer 2y ago
There seems to be quite a lot of detail in all of these drawings, I wonder if one can't reconstruct an actual street view given all that data, and a few historical paintings to "seed the color and style" a bit. Probably not impossible to do with modern LLMs
dostick 2y ago
Looks like the image in thumbnail preview is all you’re getting, and at that low resolution.
- quietbritishjim 2y ago
  I thought the same thing, I'm guessing you're also on mobile. If you switch to desktop mode then it lets you zoom in to more detail.
- bananaflag 2y ago
  There is a download link
- SamBam 2y ago
  On desktop, it's scroll to zoom.
danialwilliam 2y ago
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noelwelsh 2y ago
I like the British Pathe films from the late 1890s / early 1900s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRiMS34KxQ&list=PLxYjYcgwalAXVXJkErCENBg8zAIWqITTF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRiMS34KxQ&list=PLxYjYcgwal... (More examples in the playlist.) Large parts of London still look the same, but the way of life is vastly different. Just on a surface level, you can see how roads are used differently (there are a few horses and a lot of pedestrians) and with poorly insulated buildings everyone has to wear insulation.
larusso 2y ago
I love it. Never seen this kinda concept before. But it totally makes sense to map whole streets like this.
TheRealPomax 2y ago
If there's a map, and a sidebar with overflow, please don't have a page-level scrollbar, put the scrollbar on the sidebar that needs scroll functionality =(
aaronbrethorst 2y ago
Ed Ruscha's riff on this 120 years later: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/146931 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/146931
pwillia7 2y ago
Ran these through some AI color/restore workflows: https://imgur.com/gallery/london-street-views-1840-set-1-Ss1hqk2 https://imgur.com/gallery/london-street-views-1840-set-1-Ss1...

172 points by jfil 2y ago

fritzo 2y ago

Feature request, can someone integrate this into the DOOM engine so one can navigate 19th century london?

SamBam 2y ago
I was going to say, that or put it into a Google Street View style map. That would be amazing.

mediumsmart 2y ago

looks great once you zoom in but I don't get it. how do I open one of them to look at it - I can only zoom into the whole mosaic - why can I not click on one of them and bring it to the front or go to a page that deals with that view/street?

jesprenj 2y ago
You can't, because it's a single composite image of all of them.
Brybry 2y ago
I think this is 1 to 77 but I couldn't find/figure out a search for 78 to 88 https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/view/search?search=Submit+Query&dateRangeStart=&dateRangeEnd=&cat=0&q=%3DTallis%20London%20Street%20Views%20AND%20type%3DAtlas%20Map%20AND%20obj_height_cm%3D15%20AND%20obj_width_cm%3D%2246%22&sort=pub_list_no_initialsort%2Cpub_date%2Cpub_list_no%2Cseries_no&os=0 https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/view/search?search=...

tkgally 2y ago

It’s quite a bit more recent, but this reminded me of David Bleicher’s Instagram page “Then and Now London.” He takes photographs in the same London locations as photos taken decades ago and puts them side by side: https://www.instagram.com/thenandnowlondon/ https://www.instagram.com/thenandnowlondon/

hnlmorg 2y ago
That’s a nice find. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately it’s very hard to enjoy these kinds of blogging now that Meta have completely locked up the internet.
kqr 2y ago
This is also sometimes known as rephotography. Some of the most striking examples I've seen seamlessly blend the old and new. Such as this campus location, which really illustrates how similar people are across time: https://blogs.ubc.ca/difficultknowledge/files/2016/09/UBCLibrary.jpg https://blogs.ubc.ca/difficultknowledge/files/2016/09/UBCLib...
s_weber 2y ago
You can find more "then and now pictures" (rephotography) on re.photos. It has an archive of around 3000 pictures from around the world. (I developed the website as a final project during my studies. It's a bit dated but still alive and kicking.) https://www.re.photos/en/compilation/ https://www.re.photos/en/compilation/

Lio 2y ago

I love seeing the (1840) in the title. For a split second it makes my pre-coffee brain think, my god that’s an old post!

chrizel 2y ago
I was shortly excited because I expected Google Street View from the 1840s, oh well...
- jll29 2y ago
  That's what should me made of the old 2D maps. Should be possiblel thanks to LLMs now.
- jfil 2y ago
  Once you zoom into the individual maps, you can see that this is as close to Google Streetview as they could get at the time. It was surprising to realize it's basically the same thing.

seer 2y ago

There seems to be quite a lot of detail in all of these drawings, I wonder if one can't reconstruct an actual street view given all that data, and a few historical paintings to "seed the color and style" a bit. Probably not impossible to do with modern LLMs

dostick 2y ago

Looks like the image in thumbnail preview is all you’re getting, and at that low resolution.

quietbritishjim 2y ago
I thought the same thing, I'm guessing you're also on mobile. If you switch to desktop mode then it lets you zoom in to more detail.
bananaflag 2y ago
There is a download link
SamBam 2y ago
On desktop, it's scroll to zoom.

danialwilliam 2y ago

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noelwelsh 2y ago

I like the British Pathe films from the late 1890s / early 1900s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRiMS34KxQ&list=PLxYjYcgwalAXVXJkErCENBg8zAIWqITTF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRiMS34KxQ&list=PLxYjYcgwal... (More examples in the playlist.) Large parts of London still look the same, but the way of life is vastly different. Just on a surface level, you can see how roads are used differently (there are a few horses and a lot of pedestrians) and with poorly insulated buildings everyone has to wear insulation.

larusso 2y ago

I love it. Never seen this kinda concept before. But it totally makes sense to map whole streets like this.

TheRealPomax 2y ago

If there's a map, and a sidebar with overflow, please don't have a page-level scrollbar, put the scrollbar on the sidebar that needs scroll functionality =(

aaronbrethorst 2y ago

Ed Ruscha's riff on this 120 years later: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/146931 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/146931

pwillia7 2y ago

Ran these through some AI color/restore workflows: https://imgur.com/gallery/london-street-views-1840-set-1-Ss1hqk2 https://imgur.com/gallery/london-street-views-1840-set-1-Ss1...