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why was this flagged?

rbanffy 2y ago
Having the word “Elon” seems to bring out the worst in us. I still believe we can have civil discussions about topics that might be considered taboo.
AnimalMuppet 2y ago
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- chairmansteve 2y ago
  And yet..... almost all your recent are related to Musk...
  - AnimalMuppet 2y ago
    If you look at only one page of my posting history, that's likely true.
- LastTrain 2y ago
  Given who is involved this is as relevant as it gets here.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  > Yeah, we know, tech is bleeding over into politics, but... how many Musk stories do we need in one day? You should Ask Musk to cool down then. We didn't vote him in. We didn't ask him to break the law and compromise american security. We didn't grant him access to the US treasury. "We" voted this in. Those who didn't want this are 3 months too late. And I see this excuse on every platform. I see a story I don't want to engage with... I just move on. Maybe you browse new, but I've never seen politics be "the dominant topic on HN".
- computerthings 2y ago
  > Some of us are sick of politics all over HN all the time. That was never the situation. > how many Musk stories do we need in one day? However many the number is, we're past it. So the number is zero. Having one story for each major separate event is one story too many. This is still what it is. The longer the rationalizations for it get, the more sad it gets.
Tadpole9181 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  You can cherry-pick any two data points like that to make any point you want, all equally unfounded, so the only thing a comment like this actually does is restate your existing preference. Edit: or perhaps one could say restate-and-reinforce. I think that's (edit: well, might be) largely the function of adding snark and indignation to internet comments.
  - hipadev23 2y ago
    I think you need to admit HN is failing due to how easy it is to manipulate what content and comments are shown. Allows a single determined group to literally control the narrative. Eliminate upvotes/downvotes. Keep flagging but make it public record. And revoke privileges for those who abuse it.
    - dang 2y ago
      That's not an accurate description of what's happening, and we're not going to redesign the site in response to political winds, gale-force though they are right now. Actually that would be the worst moment to do that.
      - hipadev23 2y ago
        It 100% absolutely is, you're just too deep to recognize it. It's what's happened across Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook over the past decade. You've all built platforms intended for social discourse but instead built extremely brittle systems subject to gamified manipulation by showing people which opinions reward and punish them. And those are then manipulated at-large by outside groups responsible for elevating a particular way of thinking about a given topic. Conversations do not need a algorithmic popularity mechanism.
        2y ago
medler 2y ago
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Having the word “Elon” seems to bring out the worst in us. I still believe we can have civil discussions about topics that might be considered taboo.

AnimalMuppet 2y ago

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chairmansteve 2y ago
And yet..... almost all your recent are related to Musk...
- AnimalMuppet 2y ago
  If you look at only one page of my posting history, that's likely true.
LastTrain 2y ago
Given who is involved this is as relevant as it gets here.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
> Yeah, we know, tech is bleeding over into politics, but... how many Musk stories do we need in one day? You should Ask Musk to cool down then. We didn't vote him in. We didn't ask him to break the law and compromise american security. We didn't grant him access to the US treasury. "We" voted this in. Those who didn't want this are 3 months too late. And I see this excuse on every platform. I see a story I don't want to engage with... I just move on. Maybe you browse new, but I've never seen politics be "the dominant topic on HN".
computerthings 2y ago
> Some of us are sick of politics all over HN all the time. That was never the situation. > how many Musk stories do we need in one day? However many the number is, we're past it. So the number is zero. Having one story for each major separate event is one story too many. This is still what it is. The longer the rationalizations for it get, the more sad it gets.

Tadpole9181 2y ago

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dang 2y ago
You can cherry-pick any two data points like that to make any point you want, all equally unfounded, so the only thing a comment like this actually does is restate your existing preference. Edit: or perhaps one could say restate-and-reinforce. I think that's (edit: well, might be) largely the function of adding snark and indignation to internet comments.
- hipadev23 2y ago
  I think you need to admit HN is failing due to how easy it is to manipulate what content and comments are shown. Allows a single determined group to literally control the narrative. Eliminate upvotes/downvotes. Keep flagging but make it public record. And revoke privileges for those who abuse it.
  - dang 2y ago
    That's not an accurate description of what's happening, and we're not going to redesign the site in response to political winds, gale-force though they are right now. Actually that would be the worst moment to do that.
    - hipadev23 2y ago
      It 100% absolutely is, you're just too deep to recognize it. It's what's happened across Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook over the past decade. You've all built platforms intended for social discourse but instead built extremely brittle systems subject to gamified manipulation by showing people which opinions reward and punish them. And those are then manipulated at-large by outside groups responsible for elevating a particular way of thinking about a given topic. Conversations do not need a algorithmic popularity mechanism.
      - 2y ago

medler 2y ago

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