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Musk vows to cancel grants after gaining access to US Treasury payment system

62 points by sega_sai 2y ago

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jprd 2y ago
https://archive.md/HSZYb https://archive.md/HSZYb
cocacola1 2y ago
> The spreadsheet was posted by Mike Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, who was pardoned in 2020 after pleading guilty to lying about his contacts with Russians. Looks like the info has already been sold to the highest bidder. Yikes.
- tayo42 2y ago
  Where was this list posted?
  - unsnap_biceps 2y ago
    On X. I can't get a direct link but there are screen shots of the post at https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5uv2fzg5bj2wmfqqrc34opyf/post/3lh7c4v6c322k https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5uv2fzg5bj2wmfqqrc34opyf/po...
- belter 2y ago
  You you can't leave: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910525
moogly 2y ago
"[I]llegal payments", claims the US Minister of Propaganda without showing any proof. Do you guys even have an opposition party? I'm not hearing or seeing any in your media, which is supposedly "liberal leaning", or so I have been told for decades.
- deleted 2y ago
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beardyw 2y ago
What's wrong with Lutheran organisations? Can they not qualify for grants?
- unsnap_biceps 2y ago
  Nothing, as long as the grant is for something non-religious, like running a food bank or providing clothes for anyone, regardless of their faith.
- basementcat 2y ago
  My understanding is they may have been providing assistance to refugees. This type of activity may not be consistent with "America First" rhetoric.
thesuperbigfrog 2y ago
"The extent of DOGE’s access to the payments system appeared to be laid bare on Sunday by Musk, who responded to a post on X which contained a spreadsheet showing payments to a number of Lutheran charities." I wonder if these payments to charities are payroll deductions of federal employees as part of the Combined Federal Campaign? The Combined Federal Campaign allows federal employees to choose to give to charities of their choice by payroll deductions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Federal_Campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Federal_Campaign https://givecfc.org/ https://givecfc.org/ It would make sense for all of the playroll deductions to be sent as a single payment for a given pay period.
- legitster 2y ago
  There are like a dozen legitimate reasons the treasury would be giving money to a charity. Either he's being mega dumb or he is counting on his followers to be.
  - bloomingkales 2y ago
    They want demonize any recipient as the antagonist. That’s the reframing, standard manipulation.
- unsnap_biceps 2y ago
  From the spreadsheet Flynn posted, it seems mostly focused on https://www.globalrefuge.org/what-we-do/ https://www.globalrefuge.org/what-we-do/ (which was renamed recently from Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service). It seems clearly politically motivated given their mission statement and services provided.
legitster 2y ago
Did Musk provide any more details or evidence than what is alluded to in this article? It sounds more like he and his cronies are incredibly naive about the nature of federal payments.

62 points by sega_sai 2y ago

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jprd 2y ago

https://archive.md/HSZYb https://archive.md/HSZYb

cocacola1 2y ago

> The spreadsheet was posted by Mike Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, who was pardoned in 2020 after pleading guilty to lying about his contacts with Russians. Looks like the info has already been sold to the highest bidder. Yikes.

tayo42 2y ago
Where was this list posted?
- unsnap_biceps 2y ago
  On X. I can't get a direct link but there are screen shots of the post at https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5uv2fzg5bj2wmfqqrc34opyf/post/3lh7c4v6c322k https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5uv2fzg5bj2wmfqqrc34opyf/po...
belter 2y ago
You you can't leave: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910525

moogly 2y ago

"[I]llegal payments", claims the US Minister of Propaganda without showing any proof. Do you guys even have an opposition party? I'm not hearing or seeing any in your media, which is supposedly "liberal leaning", or so I have been told for decades.

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beardyw 2y ago

What's wrong with Lutheran organisations? Can they not qualify for grants?

unsnap_biceps 2y ago
Nothing, as long as the grant is for something non-religious, like running a food bank or providing clothes for anyone, regardless of their faith.
basementcat 2y ago
My understanding is they may have been providing assistance to refugees. This type of activity may not be consistent with "America First" rhetoric.

thesuperbigfrog 2y ago

"The extent of DOGE’s access to the payments system appeared to be laid bare on Sunday by Musk, who responded to a post on X which contained a spreadsheet showing payments to a number of Lutheran charities." I wonder if these payments to charities are payroll deductions of federal employees as part of the Combined Federal Campaign? The Combined Federal Campaign allows federal employees to choose to give to charities of their choice by payroll deductions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Federal_Campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Federal_Campaign https://givecfc.org/ https://givecfc.org/ It would make sense for all of the playroll deductions to be sent as a single payment for a given pay period.

legitster 2y ago
There are like a dozen legitimate reasons the treasury would be giving money to a charity. Either he's being mega dumb or he is counting on his followers to be.
- bloomingkales 2y ago
  They want demonize any recipient as the antagonist. That’s the reframing, standard manipulation.
unsnap_biceps 2y ago
From the spreadsheet Flynn posted, it seems mostly focused on https://www.globalrefuge.org/what-we-do/ https://www.globalrefuge.org/what-we-do/ (which was renamed recently from Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service). It seems clearly politically motivated given their mission statement and services provided.

legitster 2y ago

Did Musk provide any more details or evidence than what is alluded to in this article? It sounds more like he and his cronies are incredibly naive about the nature of federal payments.