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To be honest - I can't stand Daring Fireball too. They both are not really interesting if you are not into Apple's products. I'm just interested in them from th

by brusch 14y ago

To be honest - I can't stand Daring Fireball too. They both are not really interesting if you are not into Apple's products. I'm just interested in them from the standpoint of - let's look what's going no over there. And to give my Apple fanboy friends a little bit of grief.

TillE 14y ago
As someone who's fairly ambivalent with respect to Apple, Daring Fireball is really good when Gruber is writing in-depth about Apple. It's from a certain perspective, but it's definitely insightful. Sadly, he's utterly vapid and agenda-driven when talking about Android and Google, or writing snarky one-liners responding to criticism of Apple. I'd love to get a feed of Daring Fireball with just the longer pieces.
- alexwlchan 14y ago
  > I'd love to get a feed of Daring Fireball with just the longer pieces. You’re in luck: http://daringfireball.net/feeds/ http://daringfireball.net/feeds/ > A feed containing only the longer, feature articles (like the “old” DF feed) is available as a less-frequently-updated alternative: http://daringfireball.net/feeds/articles http://daringfireball.net/feeds/articles
- technoslut 14y ago
  >Sadly, he's utterly vapid and agenda-driven when talking about Android and Google A big part of the element not being discussed is money. Less people who use Apple products probably means less page views for Daring Fireball. I don't think it was a coincidence that the focus of his enmity has turned from MS to Google since Android became a threat to Apple's most financially successful products. The same goes for Marco. I expect him to have a bias towards Apple and developers because he makes his money off of Instapaper for iOS and he is a developer. Gruber is a very talented writer but we all can be colored by how we get our paychecks. I will say that he amuses me which is rare among the blogging cynics.
  - numbsafari 14y ago
    Or, it could just be that they both happen to like Apple products. Gruber was writing snarkily in a pro-Apple manner for years before it was his source of income. Marco has written pretty intelligent posts about his decision not to pursue an Android app on his own, that would be a very good read for any entrepreneur.
    - technoslut 14y ago
      Gruber seems to take politics in the US relatively seriously. I've seen posts where he supported the protests on the 1% within the past few months yet he has never written one post on how Apple keeps well over half of their profits overseas to avoid US taxes and how Apple is lobbying for a tax holiday. However he will talk consistently about Apple's financial success. These are very serious issues which he has sidestepped. I don't want to hold Apple's feet to the fire since they're not alone. Google, Apple, MS and a whole host of other companies are doing the same. >Marco has written pretty intelligent posts about his decision not to pursue an Android app on his own, that would be a very good read for any entrepreneur. I understand Marco's decision and I may be wrong about him. The problem for me is that everyone I know will rationalize their opinions and how they make money. I have a hard time believing that Marco is the exception to the rule after reading his blog for two years.
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      - sneak 14y ago
        Please stop assuming that those of us who want to do something about the growing income inequality and shrinking middle class are also those who think the government should get money from its citizens. It's possible to think that the evaporating middle class is a bad thing, without thinking that the solution is "more tax revenue and more government {operations, spending, regulation, etc}". Whenever you think the answer is "get the government to help fix it", you do not fully understand the question.
    - chucknelson 14y ago
nicholassmith 14y ago
Well, given they're both in general Apple bloggers I'd be surprised if you weren't into Apple products you'd enjoy them. Kind of like I'm not into boats and find boat blogs really uninteresting.

by brusch 14y ago

TillE 14y ago

As someone who's fairly ambivalent with respect to Apple, Daring Fireball is really good when Gruber is writing in-depth about Apple. It's from a certain perspective, but it's definitely insightful. Sadly, he's utterly vapid and agenda-driven when talking about Android and Google, or writing snarky one-liners responding to criticism of Apple. I'd love to get a feed of Daring Fireball with just the longer pieces.

alexwlchan 14y ago
> I'd love to get a feed of Daring Fireball with just the longer pieces. You’re in luck: http://daringfireball.net/feeds/ http://daringfireball.net/feeds/ > A feed containing only the longer, feature articles (like the “old” DF feed) is available as a less-frequently-updated alternative: http://daringfireball.net/feeds/articles http://daringfireball.net/feeds/articles
technoslut 14y ago
>Sadly, he's utterly vapid and agenda-driven when talking about Android and Google A big part of the element not being discussed is money. Less people who use Apple products probably means less page views for Daring Fireball. I don't think it was a coincidence that the focus of his enmity has turned from MS to Google since Android became a threat to Apple's most financially successful products. The same goes for Marco. I expect him to have a bias towards Apple and developers because he makes his money off of Instapaper for iOS and he is a developer. Gruber is a very talented writer but we all can be colored by how we get our paychecks. I will say that he amuses me which is rare among the blogging cynics.
- numbsafari 14y ago
  Or, it could just be that they both happen to like Apple products. Gruber was writing snarkily in a pro-Apple manner for years before it was his source of income. Marco has written pretty intelligent posts about his decision not to pursue an Android app on his own, that would be a very good read for any entrepreneur.
  - technoslut 14y ago
    Gruber seems to take politics in the US relatively seriously. I've seen posts where he supported the protests on the 1% within the past few months yet he has never written one post on how Apple keeps well over half of their profits overseas to avoid US taxes and how Apple is lobbying for a tax holiday. However he will talk consistently about Apple's financial success. These are very serious issues which he has sidestepped. I don't want to hold Apple's feet to the fire since they're not alone. Google, Apple, MS and a whole host of other companies are doing the same. >Marco has written pretty intelligent posts about his decision not to pursue an Android app on his own, that would be a very good read for any entrepreneur. I understand Marco's decision and I may be wrong about him. The problem for me is that everyone I know will rationalize their opinions and how they make money. I have a hard time believing that Marco is the exception to the rule after reading his blog for two years.
    - deleted 14y ago
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    - sneak 14y ago
      Please stop assuming that those of us who want to do something about the growing income inequality and shrinking middle class are also those who think the government should get money from its citizens. It's possible to think that the evaporating middle class is a bad thing, without thinking that the solution is "more tax revenue and more government {operations, spending, regulation, etc}". Whenever you think the answer is "get the government to help fix it", you do not fully understand the question.
  - chucknelson 14y ago

nicholassmith 14y ago

Well, given they're both in general Apple bloggers I'd be surprised if you weren't into Apple products you'd enjoy them. Kind of like I'm not into boats and find boat blogs really uninteresting.