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OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store
- prezjordan 14y agoSo how much is it going to break once I update? I need my Mac for work today - I guess I'll hold off for now.
- Terretta 14y agoI don't know what you run, but I run some things that are obscure or tie into the OS in non-sandboxy ways, and can say "nothing broke" that I can think of. Here's a sampling of items that are known good in my ML. Pref panes that work: - Growl 1.2.2 (same as Lion, uncheck the update prompt pref) - Geektool 3.0 (non-app store version) - Hazel 3.0.10 (had to update!) - Logitech LCD Manager - MacFuse - MenuMeters 1.5 - Perian 1.2.3 - Plantronics Spokes 1.0.2 (USB headset driver) - Printopia 2.1.5 - Xmarks for Safari 1.4.1 Menu bar apps that worked on latest versions: - Fantastical - Dropbox - Adium - Xmarks - Google Drive - Display Maid - BetterSnapTool - Flux - gfxCardStatus - Transmit - Western Digital Drive Manager (USB RAID Manager) - NOTE: This one had to be updated for Lion, with a beta driver http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=114&sid=62&lang=en http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=114&... and this same beta driver works in Mountain Lion. There does not appear to be a newer driver since that one. - DisplayLink USB-to-DVI Driver 1.8 (for USB to DVI dongle, I use three monitors) Apps I updated: - Parallels 7.0 15104 - MailPlane 3 (build 357) - Skype 5.8.0.1027 - ScanSnap Manager 3.2L60 - CardIris for ScanSnap 4.0.13 - FlashPlayer for OSX I've been extremely happy with this update compared to the Snow Leopard to Lion update, where a variety of things needed updates or command line configuration. Naturally, update Xcode and etc. for the latest command line tools. Executive summary: absolutely nothing keeping me from getting work done.
- spartango 14y agoFor a long list of compatible and incompatible apps, check out Roaring Apps(http://roaringapps.com/apps:table http://roaringapps.com/apps:table)
- jpxxx 14y agoThis site is wonderful, thank you. Here's a quick list I pulled of common apps with Mountain Lion problems. The Sims TiVo Desktop Hulu Desktop Virtualbox 4 VMWare Fusion 3 Perian LogMeIn MacPorts MailTags MacFuse for NTFS DynDNS Updater Epson Printer Utility 4 Filemaker Autocad Candybar Chax Minor CS5.x Apps Dragondictate Dymo Label
- mbateman 14y agoIf you bought one of the updated models from June 2012, don't forget you can get the upgrade for free: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/
- pullo 14y agoI have the new model. I don't see an option to select a macbook air when choosing the mac type. Guess I will be on call with apple..
- beala 14y agoI selected "MacBook" for my MB Air, and it worked, which is weird because I don't think they make plain MacBooks anymore. They also ask for the address of the reseller, but I purchased mine from Amazon, so I just entered my address.
- rapind 14y agoInterestingly enough I went through their redeem process (which is sort of convoluted, with a password protected PDF), and was then told "This code has already been used. Each code may only be used once." when I tried to redeem the code they gave me... So you might want to wait a bit until they sort out the bugs.
- robgough 14y agoI am having the exact same issue. I'm hoping it's a minor issue with validation, but that seems like a weird message to get if that's the case? edit: swapped "had" for "am having" as this is on-going
- bazzargh 14y agoMe too, and I'm seeing a whole lot of other people with the same bug on twitter. Apparently AppleCare are saying codes will be reissued, so report the problem: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/apple-reissuing-os-x-mountain-lion-up-to-date-codes/ http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/apple-reissuing-os-x-mou... edited to add: I've now had a response from apple after mailing support. We're getting new codes. NB they do mention doing this in response to a claim, so it appears you did need to contact Apple if you had a problem! "Before I proceed I would like to point out that Apple is aware of the issue and are working hard to resolve it ASAP...If your claim is accepted, a valid replacement code will be sent to you by email. There will be no need to submit a new claim....Please let me know if you do not receive a replacement code within 24-48 hours, as I'll be happy to look into things further for you."
- jasonlotito 14y agoNo, it's not. At least, not yet. "There was an error in the App Store. Please try again later. (100)"
- fridrik 14y agoYou may have to click the "Buy" button a second time. I live in Europe so I'm used to seeing prices with added VAT. When I launched the app store, however, my item was priced at the U.S. price of $19.99. However, after getting this error once, the app store was reloaded with the correct price tag and a functional buy button.
- Derbasti 14y agoI still can't download it though. Still getting that error 100
- mysterywhiteboy 14y agoI'm going to avoid clicking too many times - Apple has previous in charging people multiple times, e.g. when Lion was released last year [1]. [1] http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/07/27/paypal_users_mistakenly_charged_as_much_as_4000_for_mac_os_x_lion.html/ http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/07/27/paypal_users_m...
- bvlaar 14y agoAirPlay won't work unless you have a 2011 or 2012 Mac. This is highly disappointing.
- Synaesthesia 14y agoMust be using Intel Quick Sync technology
- bvlaar 14y agoMust be. I find it strange that my 2010 MBP can't use AirPlay when my iPhone 4 can work fine. Really hope someone comes out with a hack/mod to fool the OS into thinking I have the proper hardware.
- epaga 14y agoAwww man, that is a letdown. Airplay was the thing I was most looking forward to in Mountain Lion. I have a late 2010 MBP. :(
- agent86 14y agoYou might want to check out AirParrot (http://airparrot.com/ http://airparrot.com/). I haven't used it myself, but it seems like it might give you the functionality you are looking for.
- bluthru 14y agoAirPlay requires a GPU that has hardware h.264 encoding. This is so there isn't a performance hit to compress and send video to the AppleTV. You can download AirParrot if you'd like the functionality to work with a small performance hit.
- toksaitov 14y agoIt would be interesting to know the build number.
- rubyrescue 14y agoI looked but couldn't find this - is a Mountain Lion upgrade available for OS X Server yet?
- ahc 14y agohttp://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-server/id537441259?mt=12 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-server/id537441259?mt=12
- jkbr 14y ago"Apple Launches 'OS X Server' for Mountain Lion for $19.99" http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/apple-launches-os-x-server-app-for-19-99/ http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/apple-launches-os-x-serv...
- 0x0 14y agoNo compatible XCode release yet, it seems. Holding off since I can't afford being unproductive at the moment.
- fredoliveira 14y agoYou're okay, actually: I've been using the GM for a while and Xcode 4.5 DP3 is pretty good. It's available on the iOS developer portal if you have access. There's a GM of 4.4 in the Mac developer portal too (should be the same build as the final). Both of these are for Mountain Lion.
- 0x0 14y agoI saw 4.4 final apparently is out now. The problem with the DP versions are that you can't submit to the appstore with them. Also, I think I saw something about 4.4+ no longer supporting armv6, which is a dealbreaker for the few apps I'm still maintaining that needs to be compatible with iPhone 3G. :(
- metafour 14y agoIf you log in to developer.apple.com and click on the Mac Dev Center there's a button that says 4.4 in the App Store. Wasn't there yet but if you click on the View all downloads link in the section just below the dmg is available there for download. This is without the paid developer account.
- fredoliveira 14y agoHere's the direct link to the xcode downloads which includes the 4.4 final DMG: https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action?name=Xcode https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action?name=Xcod...
- mileswu 14y agoIt's now showing in the Mac App Store for me as 4.4, but when I try to update to it, it says my OSX is too new. Hurr...
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- ahc 14y agoFor those of us running the GM version do we need to get the app store version in order to get updates?
- wgx 14y agoInteresting to note they're using the "old" Twitter logo on http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html (right at the bottom).
- pooriaazimi 14y agoTwitter's official iOS app is also using the old logo: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twitter/id333903271?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twitter/id333903271?mt=8
- glhaynes 14y agoStrangely, it shows that way in the Store, but the downloaded app has the new logo icon.
- ryannielsen 14y agoThe system itself uses the correct, new logo in all cases I've seen.
- suhastech 14y agoI'm confused. It says ¥128.00 there. So, I checked google http://www.google.com/search?q=%C2%A5128.00+in+usd http://www.google.com/search?q=%C2%A5128.00+in+usd That's less than $2 or I must be mistaken.
- suhastech 14y agoNever mind. It's $20. http://likeforex.com/currency-converter/chinese-yuan-renminbi-cny_usd-us-dollar.htm/128.00 http://likeforex.com/currency-converter/chinese-yuan-renminb... I guess Google was wrong this time.
- estel 14y agoNo, Yen and Yuan both commonly use ¥ as their currency symbol, so Google just made an (incorrect) assumption about which you meant.
- mshafrir 14y agoIs the upgrade to Mountain Lion free for members of the Mac OS Developer Program?
- ben1040 14y agoI let my Mac developer account lapse a few months ago, but at least here's how it worked with Lion: If you went into the developer portal and claimed the App Store redemption code for the beta, then you were automatically licensed in the store for the release version as though you had paid for it. If you didn't claim it for the beta, then you could still claim it after the fact and get a license to the release version.
- shadesandcolour 14y agoYes, the codes for the GM should automatically be translated into codes for the release version. If you have the GM build installed then you should get the first update to 10.8.1 the same way that the rest of us do.
- cmelbye 14y agoIf I remember correctly, my Mac OS Developer Program page offered redemption codes of Lion and Lion Server after it was released.
- ig1 14y agoHow easy is it to revert to your previous version if you don't like it ?
- adestefan 14y agoMake sure Time Machine is working and up to date on your current Lion install. Use Recovery Disk Assistant to create a Lion recovery USB stick (just in case). Try out Mountain Lion. If you don't like it, boot off recover partition/disk and restore from your old Lion Time Machine backup.
- masklinn 14y agoNot easy. You need a full backup (preferably not one touched by the new install) and to reinstall from scratch, restoring from the backup.
- nestlequ1k 14y agoI made a SuperDuper backup of my entire drive before upgrading to Mountain Lion. 3 days after installing I used it to restore Lion. Mtn Lion added nothing I care about, and made several things break (terminal tabs started taking 5seconds to load... a dealkiller for me).
- rbanffy 14y agoI wonder if I'll have to turn my 2006 MacBook into a Hackintosh to run it. That would be very disappointing.
- jhaglund 14y agoSupports only 64 bit CPUs.
- eropple 14y agoSupports only 64-bit CPUs and EFI of a flavor that (while I don't remember the technical details) rules out some early 64-bit Macs.
- rbanffy 14y agoSo, Hacintosh. Any good reason for this limitation?
- ryannielsen 14y agoI suspect the good reason is they didn't want to spend time making the 64-bit kernel support 32-bit EFI and didn't want to create and qualify an EFI update for 64-bit machines that have 32-bit EFI. Likewise, they probably didn't want to spend time supporting a 32-bit kernel when they stopped shipping machines which require it 5-6 years ago.
- rbanffy 14y agoI think the only Mac shipped with a 32 bit x86 processor was the original 15-inch MacBook Pro. But I suspect the Intel GMA GPU may also play a part. I read the HCL and couldn't find a machine with anything less than an Nvidia chip. Anyway, 6 years is a long life for a laptop.
- ryannielsen 14y agoActually, many generations of Macs shipped with 32-bit processors. The first two generations of Intel 15" and 17" laptops, the first generation (at least) of Intel iMacs, and I believe three generations of Intel Mac Minis.
- allr 14y agoAm I the only one who had problem installed the GM (dev. final release) with FileVault 2 enabled? Anyone can confirms he had difficulties installing from the MAS too with FV 2 or it worked flawlessly?
- bapbap 14y agoI had the same. The preparatory install that is carried out by the app, while still in Lion, went fine but upon restarting, no further install process took place and it would just boot back into Lion again. I had to disable FV, install, then enable it again to get the GM working.
- falling 14y agoNo issues here, on a 2010 MacBook Air.
- allr 14y agoAnybody had the same problem with the MAS version ?
- kalleboo 14y agoI had no issues installing from the MAS with FileVault 2. Never tried the GM.
- jonpaul 14y ago#1 question I want answered: Does it support TRIM for 3rd party SSD drives without repeatedly doing a command line hack?
- fredsted 14y agoNo. Also, your SSD probably does garbage collection without the need for TRIM.
- rilindo 14y agoFWIW, when I upgraded to ML, my boot time was cut down from 20 seconds to 5. Awesome.
- hnriot 14y agoWhile boot times make for good review copy, how often does anyone actually reboot a Mac these days? Once a year?
- draebek 14y agoThings that make me reboot my Mac: 1. Software updates. 2. My Bluetooth headset hangs in a way that requires a reboot via power button. Happens probably once every six weeks on average. 3. VM software (mostly VirtualBox) crashes my system. Has probably happened at least twice in the past three months. 4. Booting in to Windows to play games.
- hnriot 14y agoso, what, you're saving 20 * 15 seconds per year?
- shinratdr 14y agoI don't know about GP but I reboot into Windows to play games every other day, usually multiple times that day. Reducing boot time is always welcome. Also I'm having GPU issues right now, I had to RMA the replacement GPU, and I'm using the buggy Chameleon bootloader to extend the lifespan of my Mac Pro 1,1 past the EFI32 cutoff. So I'm rebooting quite a bit nowadays.
- davej 14y agoI still can't believe the 'skeuomorphic' interfaces for Calendar and Reminders made it into the final version of Mountain Lion. These apps are often in the corner of the screen while working with different applications; they should be minimal and not full of harsh textures and deep bevels. Also, they're just plain ugly. Here's a screenshot for those not familiar: http://f.cl.ly/items/3R0I3X2Y041b091l0j1w/Screen%20Shot%202012-07-25%20at%2015.09.51.png http://f.cl.ly/items/3R0I3X2Y041b091l0j1w/Screen%20Shot%2020...
- Lewisham 14y agoThis doesn't seem like it is going to change. Ever. The course Apple was on software-wise when Jobs passed away Apple seems terrified of moving away from, even when it was clear at the time that desktop was not getting full attention over iOS. No one in software at Apple seems to have the vision required to make positive changes, rather than cribbing from iOS as the Lions have. Jonny Ive can keep hardware running well, but software is languishing. It used to be such an easy choice as to what OS I wanted. Mac OS X was prettier, more stable, more fluid and had better apps. I think Windows 8 is a much prettier OS, although the apps aren't there yet. Ubuntu is also plenty usable, has the UNIX underpinnings, and is less ugly in a number of spots than OS X (god I hate linen, and I have no love for skuemorphism). I've strongly considered running Windows 8 as my host system and virtualizing Mountain Lion, although I'm leaning towards sticking to Mac as host for now. EDIT: FWIW, I would note that Apple's core programming: system libraries and such, remains top notch. It's the front-end that seems fairly clueless.
- untog 14y agoI've been considering a fulltime move to Linux for a long time, but have yet to take the plunge- I tried a few years ago, but the driver support for my Macbook was less than great. Now, Lion seems to have slowed down my 2010 Macbook Air- at times it absolutely crawls when I'm positive it never used to. Is there anyone out there running Ubuntu full time who can say how good driver support is? In particular the trackpad- I've never had a perfect trackpad experience outside of OS X, Windows hasn't been able to do it either.
- tedsuo 14y agoAre there any memory management / performance changes after the upgrade?
- fredoliveira 14y agoI've been running the GM since the day it got released (the GM is the same build as the one now for sale), and it's been performing as well as Lion did.
- cicloid 14y agoDid you notice the drop on memory consumption?
- tomlu 14y agoTo me Lion seems like it's swapping an awful lot. I take it from your comment that there's been no improvement in this regard?
- acdha 14y agoMeasure it: there's no problem with the base Lion so you'll need to use Activity Monitor or dtrace to track down the process responsible
- lest 14y agoMy friend can't boot his macbook after upgrade. Does somebody else experience issues after upgrade?
- ableal 14y agoNice, if not brand new, collection of answers to probable questions: http://www.macworld.com/article/1165460/mountain_lion_what_you_need_to_know.html http://www.macworld.com/article/1165460/mountain_lion_what_y... Includes answer to my doubt, it seems you can upgrade Snow Leopard 10.6.8 to Mountain Lion 10.8.
- grep2 14y agoDid one of you check if airplay works in clamshell mode? I.e. when you have a keyboard/touchpad connected and wake up the mac with closed lid, does the screen content show up on the tv wirelessly? This would be very convenient for a clutterless desk and reduce the number of cables I have to plug/unplug to the power cord when arriving/leaving.
- hisyam 14y agoThis might be a newbie question — if I upgrade, will it mess up my rbenv, homebrew, and postgres installs?
- pooriaazimi 14y agoI'd like to know that myself. I'm pretty sure homebrew should be okay (for the most part, and when it's not, just "brew update" it), but am not 100% sure. Sadly I don't remember what happened when I upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion, and homebrew's homepage on github doesn't say much about the transition.
- cicloid 14y agoThey mostly work as it is, things like imagemagick you need to recompile and reinstall dependent gems But first update Xcode and the command line tools
- jasomill 14y agoMountain Lion eliminates 32-bit code from a number of libraries, so YMMV for 32-bit code that links to private frameworks and random stuff in /usr/lib. libpq.dylib is a actually a good example I ran into myself (using Python packages I had installed myself under Lion with pip): a fat binary in 10.7, but 64-bit only in 10.8. Quick fix if you've installed a fat libpq elsewhere: for each Mach-O binary that links to /usr/lib/libpq.dylib, install_name_tool -change /usr/lib/libpq.dylib /path/to/fat/libpq.dylib /path/to/binary This only works if your fat version is binary compatible with the pre-upgrade version, of course. If this command has no effect, verify the exact original path specified in the binary via otool -L /path/to/binary because, AFAIK, install_name_tool requires an exact match. The "preferred" solution is to rebuild whatever broke, making sure that it links against the right libpq in the first place, of course. Note that this problem shouldn't affect tools bundled with a freestanding PostgreSQL installation, as they'll (presumably) be linked against the correct version already, nor tools installed by MacPorts, as they'll link to /opt/local/lib/libpq.dylib, but if things you've built and installed yourself start failing with "wrong architecture" errors from the dynamic loader, this is a likely cause. I've never used Homebrew, so I have no idea what it links against.
- blakesmith 14y agoWhy do I get the feeling that Apple wants to turn my laptop into a big ipad with a keyboard? Facebook sharing, Twitter integration... These features make sense for users like my Mom, but I couldn't care less. Are there any compelling features for developers? Why should I hassle with upgrading, especially after a lot of the stability issues people had when upgrading to Lion? I want to keep being productive, not turn my laptop into a gizmo toy.
- super_mario 14y agoImagine how Mac Pro users like me feel. Now my Mac Pro feels like a phone. Yippie. I'm staying on Snow Leopard for as long as the hardware works. When it fails, it's time to move on. Linux is looking prettier every day. I don't know what the hardware choices are going to be in 5 years though. If Apple has their way, general computing will go away by the end of the decade.
- blakesmith 14y agoUgh, sorry to hear that. I can imagine the new interface designs being pretty annoying for Mac Pro users. I have also thought about making the jump back to Linux, but really enjoy the sturdy unibody build quality of macs. I'm also less inclined to fiddle with OS customization and tweaking than I used to be in college, which I did a lot of when I was in Linux land.
- aubergene 14y agoWhy not put Linux on your mac?
- blakesmith 14y agoHardware support/ease of setup mostly. I ran Ubuntu on my iBook PPC circa 2005 or so, and it wasn't a great experience. Has hardware support for the modern mac lines gotten better in recent years?
- injekt 14y agoLooks like I've lost all the command line tools. Trying to install them via Xcode 4.4 results in telling me I don't have the appropriate permissions to download them (I have an Apple Developer account but I'm not signed up to any programs). This of course breaks homebrew installs (I found the issue when trying to run an application that uses image magick). Anyone else having this issue?
- cicloid 14y agoThe last time (last rc) I solved it by downloading only the command line tools from dev center.
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- yurifury 14y agohttps://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action# https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action# On the right, "Xcode 4.4 Command Line Tools for OS X 10.8"
- injekt 14y agoWeird, that version isn't displaying for me. This is all I get: http://cl.ly/image/411o3o252t3E http://cl.ly/image/411o3o252t3E and none of those versions work on Mountain Lion :(
- rgarcia 14y agoSame here. I was able to get it to work via the answer here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9329243/xcode-4-4-command-line-tools/9964905#9964905 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9329243/xcode-4-4-command...
- injekt 14y agoOdd. Tried that too, got an access denied message. I see others are having issues too https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4136828?tstart=0 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4136828?tstart=0 can't see to get past this.
- rahulthewall 14y agoAnyone knows whether Appcelerator Titanium Studio works with Mountain Lion (officially it seems it is not supported).