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The new administration seems hell-bent on repeating history, especially 30s Germany. Isolationism is the natural outcome of blaming "the other."

by choult 2y ago

llm_trw 2y ago
It wasn't the current administration that banned sale of advanced AI chips to China. Dragging us back to the 1930s seems to be a very bipartisan policy.
- beej71 2y ago
  While I don't agree with that move, there's a difference between banning exports and banning imports/what US citizens are allowed to download.
  - pton_xd 2y ago
    ... like banning ByteDance apps? Both parties are guilty here.
    - beej71 2y ago
      And that, which I also disagree with, is different, still. With TikTok, US citizens were not banned from using the app, or downloading it from overseas.
    - addicted 2y ago
      ByteDance apps are not banned. ByteDance had an opportunity to sell TikTok to any company that isn’t based out of an enemy country that is known to have taken actions against the U.S. and its citizens.
      - pton_xd 2y ago
        PAFACA, enacted April 2024, bans all apps operated by ByteDance. Anyway, I'm sure if DeepSeek was sold to a US company that'd be fine, too!
        beej71 2y ago
        I see how PAFACA bans the distribution of the apps, I don't see where it bans the use of the apps. Citation?
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      - jrs235 2y ago
        Enemy? A bit overly strong and dramatic, no? I mean if they're an enemy why are we allowing any business with them? They might be an adversary.
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    Right, so who banned tictok? Like I said, a very bipartisan position.
    - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
      Trump, in 2020. Sadly the deep state impeded his executive order. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/900019185/trump-signs-executive-order-that-will-effectively-ban-use-of-tiktok-in-the-u-s https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/900019185/trump-signs-executi...
p3rls 2y ago
obviously the much better analogue if you've read anything beyond leftoid talking points is 20s italy or even the boulangers but durr herr hitler
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The new administration seems hell-bent on repeating history, especially 30s Germany. Isolationism is the natural outcome of blaming "the other."

by choult 2y ago

The new administration seems hell-bent on repeating history, especially 30s Germany. Isolationism is the natural outcome of blaming "the other."

llm_trw 2y ago

It wasn't the current administration that banned sale of advanced AI chips to China. Dragging us back to the 1930s seems to be a very bipartisan policy.

beej71 2y ago
While I don't agree with that move, there's a difference between banning exports and banning imports/what US citizens are allowed to download.
- pton_xd 2y ago
  ... like banning ByteDance apps? Both parties are guilty here.
  - beej71 2y ago
    And that, which I also disagree with, is different, still. With TikTok, US citizens were not banned from using the app, or downloading it from overseas.
  - addicted 2y ago
    ByteDance apps are not banned. ByteDance had an opportunity to sell TikTok to any company that isn’t based out of an enemy country that is known to have taken actions against the U.S. and its citizens.
    - pton_xd 2y ago
      PAFACA, enacted April 2024, bans all apps operated by ByteDance. Anyway, I'm sure if DeepSeek was sold to a US company that'd be fine, too!
      - beej71 2y ago
        I see how PAFACA bans the distribution of the apps, I don't see where it bans the use of the apps. Citation?
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    - jrs235 2y ago
      Enemy? A bit overly strong and dramatic, no? I mean if they're an enemy why are we allowing any business with them? They might be an adversary.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  Right, so who banned tictok? Like I said, a very bipartisan position.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    Trump, in 2020. Sadly the deep state impeded his executive order. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/900019185/trump-signs-executive-order-that-will-effectively-ban-use-of-tiktok-in-the-u-s https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/900019185/trump-signs-executi...

p3rls 2y ago

obviously the much better analogue if you've read anything beyond leftoid talking points is 20s italy or even the boulangers but durr herr hitler

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