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I don't understand how Andreessen, Thiel, and the rest of the the "alt right tech" prefer this and "anti woke" to some non-consequential DEI lip service and a f

I don't understand how Andreessen, Thiel, and the rest of the the "alt right tech" prefer this and "anti woke" to some non-consequential DEI lip service and a functioning government. Oh well, as long as he's "one of us" right? Who cares about national security, privacy, etc... Trump will pardon him and DOGE will have much win much budget cuts amirite?

thrance 2y ago
They're in it mostly for the tax cuts. Oligarchs usually don't care about handing out the country to lunatics if they can make a quick buck out of it. Hell, Thiel is gay, married to a man, and still donated millions to the anti-gay marriage party. They know their wealth shields them from the negative consequences of their actions.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > in it mostly for the tax cuts He’s in the Treasury. Not only can he see his companies’ competitors’ payments, he can see their payroll data. We’re a two weeks in and he has read only. It wouldn’t take that much work to issue a few billion dollars in payments and then wipe the slate such that it’s incredibly difficult for anyone to catch on for years. We’re way past tax cuts. Thiel got played, plainly and simply. (His issue was China. Trump is soft on China. Hell, he’s beating up Canada more than China.) The billionaires in the government are the winners; those out, probably not. (For what it’s worth, Thiel mostly sat out this election. This was more Andreessen’s deal.)
ttyprintk 2y ago
In interviews, Andreessen seems prepared about a few issues: 1. He was snubbed by the Democratic administration when he deserved an audience. Musk feels this, too. When Biden threw some event for unionized electric car makers, Musk was upset that Tesla wasn’t mentioned. Andreessen talks like those were personality-altering moments. 2. So, he says he was welcomed at the table in the Republican Party. I think history will see this as part of a fight for succession. For us as observers, look for insiders with the nebulous skill of holding the Republican coalition together. As of July, money is no object for the SV organ of the party, which has (like Trump) no ideological persuasion on abortion, health care, trans rights, religion, or guns. Look for useful insiders who can manipulate those issues, especially in a way that’s intuitive to the lower class and frustrating to the educated left. 3. Andreessen talks about employees as risky, indoctrinated and subversive; waiting to ideologically undermine the god of profit motive. This is how he answers questions about DEI and immigration. 4. So, even a CEO with merely 100% power over hiring and metrics of accountability, conveniently the only answer must be a purge. This works for Andreessen and Musk and Thiel now, but they’ll need to manipulate their status for assurances during the next purge. One day Trump won’t be able to resist firing the world’s richest man.
archagon 2y ago
Their goal is to literally topple democracy: https://archive.is/iAtnM https://archive.is/iAtnM
bigfatkitten 2y ago
Andreessen and Thiel are grifters concerned only with their own self enrichment. Neither man cares much about those other things except so far as they impact his own profits.

thrance 2y ago

They're in it mostly for the tax cuts. Oligarchs usually don't care about handing out the country to lunatics if they can make a quick buck out of it. Hell, Thiel is gay, married to a man, and still donated millions to the anti-gay marriage party. They know their wealth shields them from the negative consequences of their actions.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> in it mostly for the tax cuts He’s in the Treasury. Not only can he see his companies’ competitors’ payments, he can see their payroll data. We’re a two weeks in and he has read only. It wouldn’t take that much work to issue a few billion dollars in payments and then wipe the slate such that it’s incredibly difficult for anyone to catch on for years. We’re way past tax cuts. Thiel got played, plainly and simply. (His issue was China. Trump is soft on China. Hell, he’s beating up Canada more than China.) The billionaires in the government are the winners; those out, probably not. (For what it’s worth, Thiel mostly sat out this election. This was more Andreessen’s deal.)

ttyprintk 2y ago

In interviews, Andreessen seems prepared about a few issues: 1. He was snubbed by the Democratic administration when he deserved an audience. Musk feels this, too. When Biden threw some event for unionized electric car makers, Musk was upset that Tesla wasn’t mentioned. Andreessen talks like those were personality-altering moments. 2. So, he says he was welcomed at the table in the Republican Party. I think history will see this as part of a fight for succession. For us as observers, look for insiders with the nebulous skill of holding the Republican coalition together. As of July, money is no object for the SV organ of the party, which has (like Trump) no ideological persuasion on abortion, health care, trans rights, religion, or guns. Look for useful insiders who can manipulate those issues, especially in a way that’s intuitive to the lower class and frustrating to the educated left. 3. Andreessen talks about employees as risky, indoctrinated and subversive; waiting to ideologically undermine the god of profit motive. This is how he answers questions about DEI and immigration. 4. So, even a CEO with merely 100% power over hiring and metrics of accountability, conveniently the only answer must be a purge. This works for Andreessen and Musk and Thiel now, but they’ll need to manipulate their status for assurances during the next purge. One day Trump won’t be able to resist firing the world’s richest man.

archagon 2y ago

Their goal is to literally topple democracy: https://archive.is/iAtnM https://archive.is/iAtnM

bigfatkitten 2y ago

Andreessen and Thiel are grifters concerned only with their own self enrichment. Neither man cares much about those other things except so far as they impact his own profits.