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I will give you a little thing to read that might shed another light on the issue, which runs deeper than just doing what you are told https://www.theholocauste
by Wololooo 2y ago
I will give you a little thing to read that might shed another light on the issue, which runs deeper than just doing what you are told https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/how-and-why/why/radicalisation-of-nazi-administration/ https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/how-and-why/why/radica...
This is why people actually speaking out about swooping changes in their administration is important.
I find it very odd that you find that upholding democracy matters, even if it means to enact and act on behalf on people that are actively dismantling it or have a proven track record at effectively ignoring the popular vote, which since you are a fervent democratic believer, I am guessing you are also against various different problems such as: gerrymandering, purging voters of certain groups from the ballots, attempting to manipulate election results and even in some case ignoring the popular vote altogether in a more than dodgy manner (see this description of the 2000 election https://www.uvm.edu/~dguber/POLS125/articles/pomper.htm https://www.uvm.edu/~dguber/POLS125/articles/pomper.htm )
This is without counting that an important number of members of the current administration, refused to acknowledge January 6 or admit that the previous administration was indeed legitimate...
So yes people should do their jobs, but should be held to standards, even a soldier is bound by the oath to the constitution, as does everyone appointed to a Federal position:
"An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: “I, ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
Again you pledge not to the administration but to the institution and the constitution, so I do not think your point do really stand here.
- rayiner 2y agoYou don’t get to take away power from voters and give it to civil servants by waving your hands about the Holocaust. Yes, there is a line when a civil servant has to decline to follow orders. But the line is way over there. Obama blew up plenty of Muslim weddings and I think that the UAV operator was correct to follow those orders. Look at the Blusky group linked here. What holocaust is the national park service “Resistance Team” preventing? You’re invoking the Holocaust to justify defying the duly elected president’s policy choices on legitimate political issues: the environment, immigration, etc. And Trump won the popular vote.
- elktown 2y ago[flagged]
- rayiner 2y agoI’m literally quoting from the top article. And name-calling is rich when I’m defending the right of the winners of elections to do what they promised the public to do. As much as you hate the public and think you know better, this is a democracy and they’re in charge. Meanwhile you’re defending the prerogative of unelected career bureaucrats to veto what the public wants. Sorry, you’re the bad guy. The federal “Resistance” workers are the bad guys.
- elktown 2y ago> Meanwhile you’re defending the prerogative of unelected career bureaucrats to veto what the public wants. Sorry, you’re the bad guy. The federal “Resistance” workers are the bad guys. No, the person advocating for a purge of employees in favor of regime-loyal employees using deranged claims of a resistance movement is the bad person. This is not hard.
- CRConrad 2y ago> And Trump won the popular vote. Not in the 2016 election he didn't. (And AIUI the last one is beginning to look a lot closer than first assumed, too.)