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Philip Low Unmasking Musk

222 points by gradus_ad 2y ago

scotty79 2y ago
I think soon any post about Musk will get auto-flagged. He made himself too terrible to not get people fuming whenever his name popps up.
moffkalast 2y ago
'Unmusking Musk' was right there!
- scotty79 2y ago
  It feels more like a stench than a musk.
bag_boy 2y ago
No disrespect, but who is Philip Low?
- archagon 2y ago
  Scientist and CEO of NeuroVigil.
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  - trogdor 2y ago
    That’s not saying much. Read the “Careers” section of NeuroVigil’s website: https://neurovigil.com/index.php/about-us/careers-form https://neurovigil.com/index.php/about-us/careers-form They are ‘recruiting’ student interns. But only after a ‘traditional three-day vetting period.’ I kid you not. As much as I dislike Elon Musk, this guy is a quack. Gives me strong Tim Ferriss vibes, only less polished. It looks like NeuroVigil has been effectively defunct for over a decade.
layer8 2y ago
Plain-text copy: “I have known Elon Musk at a deep level for 14 years, well before he was a household name. We used to text frequently. He would come to my birthday party and invite me to his parties. He would tell me everything about his women problems. As sons of highly accomplished men who married venuses, were violent and lost their fortunes, and who were bullied in high school, we had a number of things in common most people cannot relate to. We would hang out together late in Los Angeles. He would visit my San Diego lab. He invested in my company. Elon is not a Nazi, per se. He is something much better, or much worse, depending on how you look at it. Nazis believed that an entire race was above everyone else. Elon believes he is above everyone else. He used to think he worked on the most important problems. When I met him, he did not presume to be a technical person — he would be the first to say that he lacked the expertise to understand certain data. That happened later. All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" or about "free speech absolutism" is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them. Everything Elon does is about acquiring and consolidating power. That is why he likes far right parties, because they are easier to control. That is also why he gave himself $56 Billion which could have gone to the people actually doing the work and innovations he is taking credit for at Tesla (the reason he does not do patents is because he would not be listed as an inventor as putting a fake inventor on a patent would kill it and moreover it would reveal the superstars behind the work). His lust for power is also why he did xAl and Neuralink, to attempt to compete with OpenAl and NeuroVigil, respectively, despite being affiliated with them. Unlike Tesla and Twitter, he was unable to conquer those companies and tried to create rivals. He announced Neuralink just after I invited his ex-wife, which she and I notified him about, to a fundraising dinner for Hebrew University in London (The fact that she tried to kiss me - I immediately pushed her away - while taking a photo at that event, even if playfully, clearly may have added to the alienation and possible emasculation he may have felt when she spoke to me in a pool at a party when they were together and she was naked. To not be disrespectful to her or to him, I stayed but looked at the sky whilst talking to her). I fired him with cause in December 2021 when he tried to undermine NV. It is ironic that years later, he clearly tried to undermine Twitter before buying it, and in my view, blowing it up and using it to manipulate the masses to lean to the far right in country after country, including The USA. [Here is more detail as some people asked. After he received a press release draft confirming NV never took a penny from the US Government, he asked to be removed from the Business Advisory Board, but then tried to give the stock he bought back, including for no money, which could have completely crashed NV's stock price. I told him he was fired from the BAB, with cause, as he admitted he had not been participating. That also meant he had no ability to exercise his stock options (years prior, despite not being allowed to discuss his investment because of a solid NDA, he/his people leaked to the press that he had invested twice as much in NV as he actually did, as if the stock options had been counted as stock). This is the email I sent him around that time: "Elon, Only one of us apparently knows the difference between Science and PR, and between friendship and phonies, and unfortunately you ain't it. Let's cut ties here. Your NV stock is not being transferred, and if you try to transfer it without my consent, in contravention of your stock purchase agreement, I will have to shove my boots so deep up your derrière, legally, that your pissing contest with Bezos will seem like it was from another life, one you want to get back to. Good luck with your implants, all of them, and with building Pottersville on Mars. Seriously, don't fuck with me." “Elon has less than 0.05% of NV and was never a principal or principal investor in NV as was falsely reported by some. I own between 80 and 90%. NV is the most valuable neurotech company in the world and does not regard Neuralink as a competitor because we have an arsenal of patents and introduced our technology to customers in 2009 and furthermore do not view their implantable technology as scalable. Moreover, the company is apparently under investigation regarding statements Elon made to investors and most of Neuralink's co-founders ditched Elon and the company.] [Continued in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42903685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42903685]
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vdupras 2y ago
Western civilization: from nationalism to feudalism. What a great time to be alive! I'll get my popcorn.
codr7 2y ago
This post just leapt 10 positions down on the front page. Never saw that before.
- sho_hn 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902355 also disappeared from the front page very suddenly earlier. This also gave me the impression there's either more active moderation of a certain class of stories atm, or the audience is flagging them a fair bit.
  - krapp 2y ago
    probably both.
    - MrMcCall 2y ago
      [flagged]
  - dang 2y ago
    That one also was heavily flagged by users and set off the flamewar detector. We turned those off on that one.
    - sho_hn 2y ago
      Thanks for following up dang.
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- archagon 2y ago
  Bizarre. I also saw this. The thread went from nothing to [flagged][dead] over the course of about a minute without going through an intermediary [flagged] phase. Fortunately, it's vouched back to life for the time being. Yesterday, I posted an "Ask HN" on the same topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42892245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42892245 I wonder if there's some sort of coordinated flagging of Musk-related topics going on, especially given Musk's ongoing (and possibly illegal) government interference. The fact that the flags seem to come so rapidly (enough to mark [dead] within ~30s) is suspicious to me. Can dang comment on this?
nothrowaways 2y ago
> as sons of highly accomplished men. I can agree, Errol had an amazing journey
nothrowaways 2y ago
I frequently read "bullied in highschool" thing affecting his adult life. If it's affecting him this much, Why can't he get a professional psycho therapist and move on?
- deepfriedchokes 2y ago
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  - zozbot234 2y ago
    The problem with the easy "Musk is just a narcissist" take is that most narcissists don't do things like create a world-changing mass market for electric vehicles, reusable rocket launches, "Starship" spacecraft (which gives us capabilities that we lost with the Space Shuttle disasters, and can do a lot more besides), or indeed, all of those at once.
    - kevingadd 2y ago
      I understand that it's easiest to associate all those achievements with Musk, but he didn't do any of those things. He isn't a specialist in EVs (or even a founder of Tesla, he came in long after it started), he's not a rocketry expert, etc. He's just a business guy. There are plenty of business guys out there.
    - Hikikomori 2y ago
      Or he saw some great business opportunities and did it to enrich himself?
    - kurikuri 2y ago
      I’d argue that no narcissists did all of those things. Elon doesn’t like patents and doesn’t share credit for IP he has no connection to other than ownership, so he didn’t do any of those things.
olalonde 2y ago
Interesting insight into Elon Musk but whether or not he actually meant to do "Nazi salutes" seems like speculation.
- nothrowaways 2y ago
  I don't think he is stupid to intentionally do it at that stage.
  - MrMcCall 2y ago
    A) Ketamine and (probably) Adderall. B) And Hitler wasn't stupid enough to open up a second front on the Soviet Union? Jacked up on meth and morphine likely makes a person rather confident, perhaps perilously so.
- archagon 2y ago
  An intelligent person makes deductions based on evidence. Low knows Musk's character from working closely with him; knows he's smart enough to understand how his salute would be perceived; sees his close connections with far-right groups (e.g. AfD) around the world; observes his public reaction (Nazi jokes, ha ha) after the controversy. It's not difficult to put two and two together here.
  - olalonde 2y ago
    > knows he's smart enough to understand how his salute would be perceived That assumes his salute was a deliberate, calculated act rather than an impulsive gesture in the heat of the moment. Given his visit to Auschwitz, his public statements, his pro-immigration stance, and his numerous Jewish friends and colleagues, there’s far more evidence suggesting he is not a Nazi than the opposite.
    - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
      Read accounts from the people that were with him on his visit to Auschwitz. It was purely PR. Remember he was kind of forced into because he was being perceived as far right. He didn't just go because he morally thought it was something he should do, he went for PR to rehab his image. https://apnews.com/article/poland-holocaust-musk-auschwitz-64de614f79ab70de0c9f2ac8d509168e https://apnews.com/article/poland-holocaust-musk-auschwitz-6...
nothrowaways 2y ago
> All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" or about "free speech absolutism" is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them. Everything Elon does is about acquiring and consolidating power. That is why he likes far right parties, because they are easier to control. That is also why he gave himself $56 Billion which could have gone. to the people actually doing the work and innovations he is taking credit for at Tesla (the reason he does not do patents is because he would not be listed as an inventor as putting a fake inventor on a patent would kill it and moreover it would reveal the superstars behind the work). His lust for power is also why he did xAl and Neuralink, to attempt to compete with OpenAl and NeuroVigil, respectively, despite being affiliated with them. Unlike Tesla and Twitter, he was unable to conquer those companies and tried to create rivals. He announced Neuralink just after I invited his ex-wife, which she and I notified him about, to a fundraising dinner for Hebrew University in London (The fact that she tried to kiss me - I immediately pushed her away - while taking a photo at that event, even if playfully, clearly may have added to the alienation and possible emasculation he may have felt when she spoke to me in a pool at a party when they were together and she was naked. To not be disrespectful to her or to him, I stayed but looked at the sky whilst talking to her). I fired him with cause in December 2021 when he tried to undermine NV. It is ironic that years later, he clearly tried to undermine Twitter before buying it, and in my view, blowing it up and using it to manipulate the masses to lean to the far right in country after country, including the USA... Wow
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- oskarkk 2y ago
  > All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" (...) is actually BS While I hate Elon's politics, I love space exploration, and I believe his motivation with SpaceX is sincere. From the start he made SpaceX with the goal of getting to Mars, and after all these years SpaceX is actually getting near the capability of sending tens of tonnes of cargo to Mars. He's been talking about getting to Mars for more than 20 years, he became a member of the Mars Society in 2001 and wanted to fund a small (unmanned) Mars mission[0], when he wasn't yet a billionaire, but very rich from PayPal, and before SpaceX was founded. Then he invested a big part of his fortune in SpaceX, which was a very risky bet. Even in the early days of SpaceX he planned to make a big rocket capable of getting a big payload to Mars[1] (the "BFR" that the 2005 article is talking about is today's Starship). I wish he had stayed focused on Mars, instead of making Earth's dirty politics even dirtier. [0] https://spaceref.com/status-report/marsnow-19-profile-elon-musk-life-to-mars-foundation/ https://spaceref.com/status-report/marsnow-19-profile-elon-m... [1] https://www.thespacereview.com/article/497/1 https://www.thespacereview.com/article/497/1
kanavs 2y ago
This is a bad article. Probable coming from Phillip Low's own inadequacies and childhood trauma. So much stuff in there that is just factually incorrect. "All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" or about "free speech absolutism" is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them." How do we know this for a fact, when soo many people have said the opposite 'Elon genuinely believes what he says..', plus you get to witness his good deeds in public as well. Every time there is a natural disaster or a war, he puts so many of his own resources to work (Starlink, tesla cars, SpaceX for bringing the astronauts home, etc.). The other reasons are probably the dumbest I have ever seen, it made sense for this post to get traction on X/bluesky, but on hackernews, it just seems absurd.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  If you are talking about the current astronaut situation SpaceX was already contracted to bring the astronauts home by Nasa all the way back in August, way prior to the recent theater between Trump and Musk. https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5087892/nasa-starliner-astronaut-return-iss-spacex https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5087892/nasa-starliner-...
nothrowaways 2y ago
> This is the email I sent him around that time: "Elon, Only one of us apparently knows the difference between Science and PR, and between friendship and phonies, and unfortunately you ain't it. Let's cut ties here. Your NV stock is not being transferred, and if you try to transfer it without my consent, in contravention of your stock purchase agreement, I will have to shove my boots. so deep up your derrière, legally, that your pissing contest with Bezos will seem like it was from another life, one you want to get back to. Good luck with your implants, all of them, and with building Pottersville on Mars. Seriously, don't fuck with me."... Wow
jihadjihad 2y ago
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gnschenker 2y ago
Big words of a man with an even bigger ego. But let’s leave the persons aside and compare businesses. It only takes a quick query to ChatGPT or other AI to compare NeuroVigil and NeuroLink. The first one monitors, the second one actually enables severely handicapped people to get their life back. Which one would you think has the potential to do more good to humanity?
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SurfinSally 2y ago
SpaceX had its best fiscal year yet in 2024, bolstered by over $3 billion in US government contracts, yet - Elon Musk paid $0 in federal taxes in 2024. Do you really think he's looking out for your best interests????

222 points by gradus_ad 2y ago

I think soon any post about Musk will get auto-flagged. He made himself too terrible to not get people fuming whenever his name popps up.

moffkalast 2y ago

'Unmusking Musk' was right there!

scotty79 2y ago
It feels more like a stench than a musk.

bag_boy 2y ago

No disrespect, but who is Philip Low?

archagon 2y ago
Scientist and CEO of NeuroVigil.
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- trogdor 2y ago
  That’s not saying much. Read the “Careers” section of NeuroVigil’s website: https://neurovigil.com/index.php/about-us/careers-form https://neurovigil.com/index.php/about-us/careers-form They are ‘recruiting’ student interns. But only after a ‘traditional three-day vetting period.’ I kid you not. As much as I dislike Elon Musk, this guy is a quack. Gives me strong Tim Ferriss vibes, only less polished. It looks like NeuroVigil has been effectively defunct for over a decade.

layer8 2y ago

Plain-text copy: “I have known Elon Musk at a deep level for 14 years, well before he was a household name. We used to text frequently. He would come to my birthday party and invite me to his parties. He would tell me everything about his women problems. As sons of highly accomplished men who married venuses, were violent and lost their fortunes, and who were bullied in high school, we had a number of things in common most people cannot relate to. We would hang out together late in Los Angeles. He would visit my San Diego lab. He invested in my company. Elon is not a Nazi, per se. He is something much better, or much worse, depending on how you look at it. Nazis believed that an entire race was above everyone else. Elon believes he is above everyone else. He used to think he worked on the most important problems. When I met him, he did not presume to be a technical person — he would be the first to say that he lacked the expertise to understand certain data. That happened later. All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" or about "free speech absolutism" is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them. Everything Elon does is about acquiring and consolidating power. That is why he likes far right parties, because they are easier to control. That is also why he gave himself $56 Billion which could have gone to the people actually doing the work and innovations he is taking credit for at Tesla (the reason he does not do patents is because he would not be listed as an inventor as putting a fake inventor on a patent would kill it and moreover it would reveal the superstars behind the work). His lust for power is also why he did xAl and Neuralink, to attempt to compete with OpenAl and NeuroVigil, respectively, despite being affiliated with them. Unlike Tesla and Twitter, he was unable to conquer those companies and tried to create rivals. He announced Neuralink just after I invited his ex-wife, which she and I notified him about, to a fundraising dinner for Hebrew University in London (The fact that she tried to kiss me - I immediately pushed her away - while taking a photo at that event, even if playfully, clearly may have added to the alienation and possible emasculation he may have felt when she spoke to me in a pool at a party when they were together and she was naked. To not be disrespectful to her or to him, I stayed but looked at the sky whilst talking to her). I fired him with cause in December 2021 when he tried to undermine NV. It is ironic that years later, he clearly tried to undermine Twitter before buying it, and in my view, blowing it up and using it to manipulate the masses to lean to the far right in country after country, including The USA. [Here is more detail as some people asked. After he received a press release draft confirming NV never took a penny from the US Government, he asked to be removed from the Business Advisory Board, but then tried to give the stock he bought back, including for no money, which could have completely crashed NV's stock price. I told him he was fired from the BAB, with cause, as he admitted he had not been participating. That also meant he had no ability to exercise his stock options (years prior, despite not being allowed to discuss his investment because of a solid NDA, he/his people leaked to the press that he had invested twice as much in NV as he actually did, as if the stock options had been counted as stock). This is the email I sent him around that time: "Elon, Only one of us apparently knows the difference between Science and PR, and between friendship and phonies, and unfortunately you ain't it. Let's cut ties here. Your NV stock is not being transferred, and if you try to transfer it without my consent, in contravention of your stock purchase agreement, I will have to shove my boots so deep up your derrière, legally, that your pissing contest with Bezos will seem like it was from another life, one you want to get back to. Good luck with your implants, all of them, and with building Pottersville on Mars. Seriously, don't fuck with me." “Elon has less than 0.05% of NV and was never a principal or principal investor in NV as was falsely reported by some. I own between 80 and 90%. NV is the most valuable neurotech company in the world and does not regard Neuralink as a competitor because we have an arsenal of patents and introduced our technology to customers in 2009 and furthermore do not view their implantable technology as scalable. Moreover, the company is apparently under investigation regarding statements Elon made to investors and most of Neuralink's co-founders ditched Elon and the company.] [Continued in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42903685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42903685]

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vdupras 2y ago

Western civilization: from nationalism to feudalism. What a great time to be alive! I'll get my popcorn.

codr7 2y ago

This post just leapt 10 positions down on the front page. Never saw that before.

sho_hn 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42902355 also disappeared from the front page very suddenly earlier. This also gave me the impression there's either more active moderation of a certain class of stories atm, or the audience is flagging them a fair bit.
- krapp 2y ago
  probably both.
  - MrMcCall 2y ago
    [flagged]
- dang 2y ago
  That one also was heavily flagged by users and set off the flamewar detector. We turned those off on that one.
  - sho_hn 2y ago
    Thanks for following up dang.
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archagon 2y ago
Bizarre. I also saw this. The thread went from nothing to [flagged][dead] over the course of about a minute without going through an intermediary [flagged] phase. Fortunately, it's vouched back to life for the time being. Yesterday, I posted an "Ask HN" on the same topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42892245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42892245 I wonder if there's some sort of coordinated flagging of Musk-related topics going on, especially given Musk's ongoing (and possibly illegal) government interference. The fact that the flags seem to come so rapidly (enough to mark [dead] within ~30s) is suspicious to me. Can dang comment on this?

nothrowaways 2y ago

> as sons of highly accomplished men. I can agree, Errol had an amazing journey

nothrowaways 2y ago

I frequently read "bullied in highschool" thing affecting his adult life. If it's affecting him this much, Why can't he get a professional psycho therapist and move on?

deepfriedchokes 2y ago
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- MrMcCall 2y ago
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- zozbot234 2y ago
  The problem with the easy "Musk is just a narcissist" take is that most narcissists don't do things like create a world-changing mass market for electric vehicles, reusable rocket launches, "Starship" spacecraft (which gives us capabilities that we lost with the Space Shuttle disasters, and can do a lot more besides), or indeed, all of those at once.
  - kevingadd 2y ago
    I understand that it's easiest to associate all those achievements with Musk, but he didn't do any of those things. He isn't a specialist in EVs (or even a founder of Tesla, he came in long after it started), he's not a rocketry expert, etc. He's just a business guy. There are plenty of business guys out there.
  - Hikikomori 2y ago
    Or he saw some great business opportunities and did it to enrich himself?
  - kurikuri 2y ago
    I’d argue that no narcissists did all of those things. Elon doesn’t like patents and doesn’t share credit for IP he has no connection to other than ownership, so he didn’t do any of those things.

olalonde 2y ago

Interesting insight into Elon Musk but whether or not he actually meant to do "Nazi salutes" seems like speculation.

nothrowaways 2y ago
I don't think he is stupid to intentionally do it at that stage.
- MrMcCall 2y ago
  A) Ketamine and (probably) Adderall. B) And Hitler wasn't stupid enough to open up a second front on the Soviet Union? Jacked up on meth and morphine likely makes a person rather confident, perhaps perilously so.
archagon 2y ago
An intelligent person makes deductions based on evidence. Low knows Musk's character from working closely with him; knows he's smart enough to understand how his salute would be perceived; sees his close connections with far-right groups (e.g. AfD) around the world; observes his public reaction (Nazi jokes, ha ha) after the controversy. It's not difficult to put two and two together here.
- olalonde 2y ago
  > knows he's smart enough to understand how his salute would be perceived That assumes his salute was a deliberate, calculated act rather than an impulsive gesture in the heat of the moment. Given his visit to Auschwitz, his public statements, his pro-immigration stance, and his numerous Jewish friends and colleagues, there’s far more evidence suggesting he is not a Nazi than the opposite.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    Read accounts from the people that were with him on his visit to Auschwitz. It was purely PR. Remember he was kind of forced into because he was being perceived as far right. He didn't just go because he morally thought it was something he should do, he went for PR to rehab his image. https://apnews.com/article/poland-holocaust-musk-auschwitz-64de614f79ab70de0c9f2ac8d509168e https://apnews.com/article/poland-holocaust-musk-auschwitz-6...

nothrowaways 2y ago

> All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" or about "free speech absolutism" is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them. Everything Elon does is about acquiring and consolidating power. That is why he likes far right parties, because they are easier to control. That is also why he gave himself $56 Billion which could have gone. to the people actually doing the work and innovations he is taking credit for at Tesla (the reason he does not do patents is because he would not be listed as an inventor as putting a fake inventor on a patent would kill it and moreover it would reveal the superstars behind the work). His lust for power is also why he did xAl and Neuralink, to attempt to compete with OpenAl and NeuroVigil, respectively, despite being affiliated with them. Unlike Tesla and Twitter, he was unable to conquer those companies and tried to create rivals. He announced Neuralink just after I invited his ex-wife, which she and I notified him about, to a fundraising dinner for Hebrew University in London (The fact that she tried to kiss me - I immediately pushed her away - while taking a photo at that event, even if playfully, clearly may have added to the alienation and possible emasculation he may have felt when she spoke to me in a pool at a party when they were together and she was naked. To not be disrespectful to her or to him, I stayed but looked at the sky whilst talking to her). I fired him with cause in December 2021 when he tried to undermine NV. It is ironic that years later, he clearly tried to undermine Twitter before buying it, and in my view, blowing it up and using it to manipulate the masses to lean to the far right in country after country, including the USA... Wow

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oskarkk 2y ago
> All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" (...) is actually BS While I hate Elon's politics, I love space exploration, and I believe his motivation with SpaceX is sincere. From the start he made SpaceX with the goal of getting to Mars, and after all these years SpaceX is actually getting near the capability of sending tens of tonnes of cargo to Mars. He's been talking about getting to Mars for more than 20 years, he became a member of the Mars Society in 2001 and wanted to fund a small (unmanned) Mars mission[0], when he wasn't yet a billionaire, but very rich from PayPal, and before SpaceX was founded. Then he invested a big part of his fortune in SpaceX, which was a very risky bet. Even in the early days of SpaceX he planned to make a big rocket capable of getting a big payload to Mars[1] (the "BFR" that the 2005 article is talking about is today's Starship). I wish he had stayed focused on Mars, instead of making Earth's dirty politics even dirtier. [0] https://spaceref.com/status-report/marsnow-19-profile-elon-musk-life-to-mars-foundation/ https://spaceref.com/status-report/marsnow-19-profile-elon-m... [1] https://www.thespacereview.com/article/497/1 https://www.thespacereview.com/article/497/1

kanavs 2y ago

This is a bad article. Probable coming from Phillip Low's own inadequacies and childhood trauma. So much stuff in there that is just factually incorrect. "All his talk about getting to Mars to "maintain the light of consciousness" or about "free speech absolutism" is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them." How do we know this for a fact, when soo many people have said the opposite 'Elon genuinely believes what he says..', plus you get to witness his good deeds in public as well. Every time there is a natural disaster or a war, he puts so many of his own resources to work (Starlink, tesla cars, SpaceX for bringing the astronauts home, etc.). The other reasons are probably the dumbest I have ever seen, it made sense for this post to get traction on X/bluesky, but on hackernews, it just seems absurd.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
If you are talking about the current astronaut situation SpaceX was already contracted to bring the astronauts home by Nasa all the way back in August, way prior to the recent theater between Trump and Musk. https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5087892/nasa-starliner-astronaut-return-iss-spacex https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5087892/nasa-starliner-...

nothrowaways 2y ago

> This is the email I sent him around that time: "Elon, Only one of us apparently knows the difference between Science and PR, and between friendship and phonies, and unfortunately you ain't it. Let's cut ties here. Your NV stock is not being transferred, and if you try to transfer it without my consent, in contravention of your stock purchase agreement, I will have to shove my boots. so deep up your derrière, legally, that your pissing contest with Bezos will seem like it was from another life, one you want to get back to. Good luck with your implants, all of them, and with building Pottersville on Mars. Seriously, don't fuck with me."... Wow

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gnschenker 2y ago

Big words of a man with an even bigger ego. But let’s leave the persons aside and compare businesses. It only takes a quick query to ChatGPT or other AI to compare NeuroVigil and NeuroLink. The first one monitors, the second one actually enables severely handicapped people to get their life back. Which one would you think has the potential to do more good to humanity?

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SurfinSally 2y ago

SpaceX had its best fiscal year yet in 2024, bolstered by over $3 billion in US government contracts, yet - Elon Musk paid $0 in federal taxes in 2024. Do you really think he's looking out for your best interests????