Zizians are a subgroup of Rationalists in the same sense as Satanists are a subgroup of Christians, or Scientology a subgroup of Psychiatry. Even the article s

Zizians are a subgroup of Rationalists in the same sense as Satanists are a subgroup of Christians, or Scientology a subgroup of Psychiatry. Even the article says that Ziz has attended a Rationalist workshop... and was told that she was a "net negative". Then she (and her followers) spent the following years fighting against the Rationalist community in various ways: anonymously accusing its members of rape, organizing protests, calling them evil on her blog, etc. And yet some people keep writing as if both are more or less the same thing, which is something that both groups would strongly disagree with.