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Doesn't sound rationalist to me (from Ziz quoted section of article linked below): "Ziz Impostors keep thinking it's safe to impersonate single goods. A nice
by sam345 2y ago
Doesn't sound rationalist to me (from Ziz quoted section of article linked below):
"Ziz
Impostors keep thinking it's safe to impersonate single goods. A nice place to slide in psyche/shadow, false faces, "who could ever falsify that I'm blaming it on my headmate!"
Saying you're single good is saying, "Help, I have a Yeerk in my head that's a mirror image of me. I need you to surgically destroy it, even if I'm then crippled for life or might die in the process. Then kill me if I ever do one evil act for the rest of my life. That's better than being a slave. Save me even though it is so easy to impersonate me. And you will aggro so many impostors you'll then be in a fight to the death(s) with. Might as well then kill me too if I don't pass an unthinkable gom jabbar. That'll make us both safer from them and I care zero about pain relative to freedom from my Yeerk at any cost."
It's an outsized consequentialist priority, even in a doomed timeline, to make it unsafe to impersonate single goods.
Critical to the destiny of the world. The most vulnerable souls impostors vex. To bring justice to individual people, from collective punishment."
https://openvallejo.org/2025/01/31/zizian-namesake-who-faked-death-in-2022-is-wanted-in-two-states/ https://openvallejo.org/2025/01/31/zizian-namesake-who-faked.... More detail.
- zoklet-enjoyer 2y agoI put this post into Suno https://suno.com/song/13bdb0ef-a219-4a2c-b1bf-646698593e56 https://suno.com/song/13bdb0ef-a219-4a2c-b1bf-646698593e56
- templeOSdotcom 2y agoneeds more male falsetto
- anon84873628 2y agowhat the heck does any of this mean??
- Muromec 2y agoOne of the many rabbit holes, the deeper layers of.
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- booleandilemma 2y agoI'm sure it makes sense to the most indoctrinated of the cult members.
- guerrilla 2y agoSadly, I completely understand after reading all the links in this thread tonight. The specific theory they're speaking in: https://zizians.info/ https://zizians.info/ Backstory (7 chapters): https://aiascendant.substack.com/p/extropias-children-chapter-1-the-wunderkind https://aiascendant.substack.com/p/extropias-children-chapte...
- squigz 2y agoA relevant bit from zizians.info > This jargon serves multiple purposes. An important one is that it separates Zizians from others. The cost to read and understand Sinceriously is substantial, and most people are not willing to pay it. Another is to warp the beliefs of people who use it. The connotations and affect of Ziz's jargon encode her moral beliefs about the world separated from the quality of reasoning used to produce them. By offering language that reinforces these judgments Ziz creates conditions where even engaging with the beliefs of her followers requires the repetition and reinforcement of their frame.
- kragen 2y agoCould you offer us a translation of the first two or three sentences? Apparently this comment was interpreted as a threat of murder.
- jschoe 2y agoThey write and talk in their group lingo so outsiders can't understand it without diving deep into their lore, mindset and community. It's a common thing. Seen it numerous times. Don't waste your time.
- FeepingCreature 2y agoTo be clear, this is not rationalist lingo.
- grumple 2y agoThis Ziz person is really unhinged. I read some of their writing, it reminds me of every eloquent, manipulative narcissist I've met. They are never as smart as they think they are - or as smart as they want you to think they are - though they may be smart, charming, and engaging. They've created an alternate universe in their mind and haphazardly abuse whatever ideas they've encountered to justify it.