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> and are actually being adopted Care to share some examples?

Retric 2y ago
Look at the caterpillar line of EV vehicles they are becoming quite popular. Ex: 798 AC a 372 metric ton payload truck https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/equipment/off-highway-trucks/mining-trucks/15970073.html https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/equipment/off-highway... At the other end mini EV excavators are also becoming quite popular ex: Volvo ECR25, Bobcat E19e, etc
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  Are you seriously showing me a mining truck and some micro machines you can use to dig a trench in your garden as an example of EV machines being „adopted”? Do you even know what makes those mining trucks functional for this use case? The deeper the mine, the more effective they are!
  - Retric 2y ago
    Yes, people buying EV work vehicles are examples of EV work vehicles being adopted, which is pushing manufacturers to make ever more diversified product lines. A work crew putting in a trench really benefits from the equipment being quit. What you think of as “digging in your garden” is just one of plentiful examples of home construction scale equipment. There’s a lot of equipment that fits such purposes like rollers for people’s driveways etc. Here’s a preproduction equivalent to the hydrogen prototype mentioned in the article: 320 Electric Medium Excavator Operating weight: 22–24 metric tons | 48,501–52,911 lb Bucket capacity: 1.3 m³ | 1.7 yd³ https://www.cat.com/en_US/by-industry/construction/electric-products.html https://www.cat.com/en_US/by-industry/construction/electric-...
    - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
      What’s „long single charge run” an equivalent of?
      - Retric 2y ago
        Not sure of what you’re asking.
        rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        We started this thread from someone asking „will it do 8 hours of work on a single charge”. The little 301.9 digger from cat proudly says „ Run time: up to 8 hours on a single charge”, the big one says „Long single charge run time allows for ability to perform intended work with minimal disruption”. Will it do 8 hours? Otherwise I root for a hydrogen digger.
        Retric 2y ago
        Looking at that battery pack 320KWh vs typical fuel consumption on similar machines and its battery is oversized for 8 hours of work when new and could still handle that with significant degradation. That said, people don’t work 8 hours without taking a break so arguably a smaller battery might be a good tradeoff.

Look at the caterpillar line of EV vehicles they are becoming quite popular. Ex: 798 AC a 372 metric ton payload truck https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/equipment/off-highway-trucks/mining-trucks/15970073.html https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/equipment/off-highway... At the other end mini EV excavators are also becoming quite popular ex: Volvo ECR25, Bobcat E19e, etc

rad_gruchalski 2y ago
Are you seriously showing me a mining truck and some micro machines you can use to dig a trench in your garden as an example of EV machines being „adopted”? Do you even know what makes those mining trucks functional for this use case? The deeper the mine, the more effective they are!
- Retric 2y ago
  Yes, people buying EV work vehicles are examples of EV work vehicles being adopted, which is pushing manufacturers to make ever more diversified product lines. A work crew putting in a trench really benefits from the equipment being quit. What you think of as “digging in your garden” is just one of plentiful examples of home construction scale equipment. There’s a lot of equipment that fits such purposes like rollers for people’s driveways etc. Here’s a preproduction equivalent to the hydrogen prototype mentioned in the article: 320 Electric Medium Excavator Operating weight: 22–24 metric tons | 48,501–52,911 lb Bucket capacity: 1.3 m³ | 1.7 yd³ https://www.cat.com/en_US/by-industry/construction/electric-products.html https://www.cat.com/en_US/by-industry/construction/electric-...
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    What’s „long single charge run” an equivalent of?
    - Retric 2y ago
      Not sure of what you’re asking.
      - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        We started this thread from someone asking „will it do 8 hours of work on a single charge”. The little 301.9 digger from cat proudly says „ Run time: up to 8 hours on a single charge”, the big one says „Long single charge run time allows for ability to perform intended work with minimal disruption”. Will it do 8 hours? Otherwise I root for a hydrogen digger.
        Retric 2y ago
        Looking at that battery pack 320KWh vs typical fuel consumption on similar machines and its battery is oversized for 8 hours of work when new and could still handle that with significant degradation. That said, people don’t work 8 hours without taking a break so arguably a smaller battery might be a good tradeoff.