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> It's also way the fuck off base to call this a concentration camp for undesirables with all the insinuations of Nazism that come with that. Tell me, how many

by Terr_ 2y ago

> It's also way the fuck off base to call this a concentration camp for undesirables with all the insinuations of Nazism that come with that. Tell me, how many other governments can you list that planned to deport large numbers of people living in their country out to a special island they controlled in order to take advantage of its extraterritorial legal limbo separating it from the source country? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan If I had a nickel every time that happened, I'd have two nickels, but it's weird that it's happened twice.

Dalewyn 2y ago
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- Terr_ 2y ago
  > they broke the law crossing the border illegally The majority here crossed legally and overstayed their visa. That's just basic table-stakes knowledge for this issue, please remember it. Bonus points if you know that overstaying is a civil infraction like a parking ticket, below the level of a misdemeanor. > these initial rounds of deportations are prioritizing illegal aliens with violent criminal records. That's what the professional liar says, but why would you trust him on that? https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-deportation-colombia-ice-arrests-b2688591.html https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit... > These people are factually the worst of the worst. How the hell can you "factually" know that when the Trump administration still won't even explain what criteria they are using!? (Even assuming they'll be making any honest effort at all.)
hiharryhere 2y ago
Not defending it… but Australia has done this for decades. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution Most famously on Nauru https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru_Regional_Processing_Centre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru_Regional_Processing_Ce...
- michaelhoney 2y ago
  and it is absolutely fucked that we do it
southernplaces7 2y ago
Comparing this to the Madagascar plan and the core aims of the regime behind it is even more the fuck off base than the original insinuation of the current plans for Gitmo being akin to a concentration camp for undesirables. Truly, at least use some basic bloody comparative reasoning to formulate arguments.
notusmerican 2y ago
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by Terr_ 2y ago

Dalewyn 2y ago

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Terr_ 2y ago
> they broke the law crossing the border illegally The majority here crossed legally and overstayed their visa. That's just basic table-stakes knowledge for this issue, please remember it. Bonus points if you know that overstaying is a civil infraction like a parking ticket, below the level of a misdemeanor. > these initial rounds of deportations are prioritizing illegal aliens with violent criminal records. That's what the professional liar says, but why would you trust him on that? https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-deportation-colombia-ice-arrests-b2688591.html https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit... > These people are factually the worst of the worst. How the hell can you "factually" know that when the Trump administration still won't even explain what criteria they are using!? (Even assuming they'll be making any honest effort at all.)

hiharryhere 2y ago

Not defending it… but Australia has done this for decades. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution Most famously on Nauru https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru_Regional_Processing_Centre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru_Regional_Processing_Ce...

michaelhoney 2y ago
and it is absolutely fucked that we do it

southernplaces7 2y ago

Comparing this to the Madagascar plan and the core aims of the regime behind it is even more the fuck off base than the original insinuation of the current plans for Gitmo being akin to a concentration camp for undesirables. Truly, at least use some basic bloody comparative reasoning to formulate arguments.

notusmerican 2y ago

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