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How would user vs developer be distinguished? Looks like it mentions both users and developers but doesnt distinguish how one would be found liable

Kinrany 2y ago
Not a new question: "the AI did it" is an equivalent of "the gun did it" or "the car did it".
- RobotToaster 2y ago
  > or "the car did it". Tesla gives you the old with the new.
  - escapecharacter 2y ago
    Accountability hacking: https://www.motortrend.com/news/nhtsa-tesla-autopilot-investigation-shutoff-crash/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/nhtsa-tesla-autopilot-invest...
    - Muromec 2y ago
      Liability sinks is the word
- lelandfe 2y ago
  On the other hand, “the corporation did it” has been pretty successful so far
rileymat2 2y ago
> This bill would prohibit a defendant that developed or used artificial intelligence, as defined, from asserting a defense that the artificial intelligence autonomously caused the harm to the plaintiff. I am not sure the distinction matters?
- dzink 2y ago
  If you’re driving a self-driving car, you can’t blame it on the car.
  - Muromec 2y ago
    You can blame it on a car even if the car is not self-driving
    - Retric 2y ago
      It’s your responsibility to ensure that your breaks etc work. Presumably it’s also your responsibility to pick and maintain a working self driving system.
      - cgriswald 2y ago
        Vehicles have defects and sometimes the manufacturer is at fault for accidents. The upstream poster is correct. This new law has no relevance to who is liable. It would simply remove "the AI did it" as a valid defense in any case (with whatever exceptions are defined in the existing law referenced).
        Retric 2y ago
        Like the resale of stolen property. The victim can always just sue you, you may be able to sue the person you got it from.
        cgriswald 2y ago
        You can always be sued, and this may be a difficult defense to make in practice, but drivers are not generally liable for accidents caused by mechanical failure if the cause is manufacturing defect.
        Retric 2y ago

Kinrany 2y ago

Not a new question: "the AI did it" is an equivalent of "the gun did it" or "the car did it".

RobotToaster 2y ago
> or "the car did it". Tesla gives you the old with the new.
- escapecharacter 2y ago
  Accountability hacking: https://www.motortrend.com/news/nhtsa-tesla-autopilot-investigation-shutoff-crash/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/nhtsa-tesla-autopilot-invest...
  - Muromec 2y ago
    Liability sinks is the word
lelandfe 2y ago
On the other hand, “the corporation did it” has been pretty successful so far

rileymat2 2y ago

> This bill would prohibit a defendant that developed or used artificial intelligence, as defined, from asserting a defense that the artificial intelligence autonomously caused the harm to the plaintiff. I am not sure the distinction matters?

dzink 2y ago
If you’re driving a self-driving car, you can’t blame it on the car.
- Muromec 2y ago
  You can blame it on a car even if the car is not self-driving
  - Retric 2y ago
    It’s your responsibility to ensure that your breaks etc work. Presumably it’s also your responsibility to pick and maintain a working self driving system.
    - cgriswald 2y ago
      Vehicles have defects and sometimes the manufacturer is at fault for accidents. The upstream poster is correct. This new law has no relevance to who is liable. It would simply remove "the AI did it" as a valid defense in any case (with whatever exceptions are defined in the existing law referenced).
      - Retric 2y ago
        Like the resale of stolen property. The victim can always just sue you, you may be able to sue the person you got it from.
        cgriswald 2y ago
        You can always be sued, and this may be a difficult defense to make in practice, but drivers are not generally liable for accidents caused by mechanical failure if the cause is manufacturing defect.
        Retric 2y ago