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This is disengenious. They received the same deferred resignation email that every other federal employee got. They weren't told to 'leave immediately' nor was

by BowBun 2y ago

This is disengenious. They received the same deferred resignation email that every other federal employee got. They weren't told to 'leave immediately' nor was anyone else, they were offered an option to leave or stay on for 9 months, with pay. I'm getting frustrated at 'my people' seemingly just making things up on this topic. Edit: Also linking another comment where ATC was literally told they're not in the offer... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42899944 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42899944

9283409232 2y ago
They didn't make anything up. What they said is 100% accurate and lines up with what you said, you just have additional context they didn't have. Your fight should be with the reporting outlets because that is how they are reporting it.
- BowBun 2y ago
  > Trump telling all ATC controllers to leave, immediately this is not 100% accurate by any definition of the word accurate. It is an interpretation of a letter, and a wrong one in my opinion. Believe me I'm quite pissed at the media for finally making both sides of the US political spectrum equally uninterested in facts
fzeroracer 2y ago
If I get an email from my superior telling me to either pledge loyalty or resign I'm going to read the very obvious writing on the wall here. You would have to be a massive idiot to not see it. And the ATC was told they're not included in the offer after the emails were already sent out. Like you trying to reframe it and add more context makes it more stupid, not less.
- BowBun 2y ago
  >pledge loyalty or resign This is made up. It's a layoff letter like we see at big corps any other week. "We're reorganizing, here's an offer, take it or not, your job might get cut in 9 months."
  - yakz 2y ago
    Well, it's not made up. I think it's fair to interpret it that way. The word 'loyal' literally appears in the text. "Enhanced standards of conduct: The federal workforce should be comprised of employees who are reliable, loyal, trustworthy, and who strive for excellence in their daily work. Employees will be subject to enhanced standards of suitability and conduct as we move forward. Employees who engage in unlawful behavior or other misconduct will be prioritized for appropriate investigation and discipline, including termination."

by BowBun 2y ago

9283409232 2y ago

They didn't make anything up. What they said is 100% accurate and lines up with what you said, you just have additional context they didn't have. Your fight should be with the reporting outlets because that is how they are reporting it.

BowBun 2y ago
> Trump telling all ATC controllers to leave, immediately this is not 100% accurate by any definition of the word accurate. It is an interpretation of a letter, and a wrong one in my opinion. Believe me I'm quite pissed at the media for finally making both sides of the US political spectrum equally uninterested in facts

fzeroracer 2y ago

If I get an email from my superior telling me to either pledge loyalty or resign I'm going to read the very obvious writing on the wall here. You would have to be a massive idiot to not see it. And the ATC was told they're not included in the offer after the emails were already sent out. Like you trying to reframe it and add more context makes it more stupid, not less.

BowBun 2y ago
>pledge loyalty or resign This is made up. It's a layoff letter like we see at big corps any other week. "We're reorganizing, here's an offer, take it or not, your job might get cut in 9 months."
- yakz 2y ago
  Well, it's not made up. I think it's fair to interpret it that way. The word 'loyal' literally appears in the text. "Enhanced standards of conduct: The federal workforce should be comprised of employees who are reliable, loyal, trustworthy, and who strive for excellence in their daily work. Employees will be subject to enhanced standards of suitability and conduct as we move forward. Employees who engage in unlawful behavior or other misconduct will be prioritized for appropriate investigation and discipline, including termination."