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Fully agree on minimizing the use of cars. But I still wanted to do this computation to compare: EPA says a gallon produces 8.8 kg CO2/gal tailpipe emissions [
by jenny91 2y ago
Fully agree on minimizing the use of cars. But I still wanted to do this computation to compare:
EPA says a gallon produces 8.8 kg CO2/gal tailpipe emissions [0]. A best-case sedan does about 50 mi/gal [1]. That's 17.6 kg CO2/100 mi for a best case sedan.
A Tesla Model 3 uses about 25 kWh/100 mi [2]. 1 kWh produces about 1 kg CO2 when produced in the dirtiest way (coal), but in the US it's currently about 0.4 kg CO2/kWh on average [4]. That gives you 10-25 kg CO2/100 mi.
So the best case ICE is better only if you are producing the electricity from coal (even gas power is better than ICE). The nice thing about EVs is that you can often charge them with the cleanest power (e.g. solar), but I'm not sure how common that optimization is.
[0]: https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-typical-passenger-vehicle https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-t...
[1]: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.shtml https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.shtml
[2]: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=46206 https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=46206
[3]: https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=74&t=11 https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=74&t=11
[4]: https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US/12mo/monthly https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US/12mo/monthly
- fpoling 2y agoCO2 emissions from the gasoline does not account for the energy necessary to refine the oil to produce it. These days refineries use electricity for that so if that comes from a coal plant, it adds like 25% of CO2 emission. So the best sedan is pretty much equivalent in the carbon emission to Tesla when that car uses electricity from an old coal plant with 30% efficiency.