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I don't have a way to prove this and it's based purely on intuition/experience, but I disagree. I think ideology doesn't meaningfully influence such people. The

I don't have a way to prove this and it's based purely on intuition/experience, but I disagree. I think ideology doesn't meaningfully influence such people. There is a deeper psychological drive and they only create a philosophical justification later, which is of little importance. This is perhaps true of humans in general.

OmarShehata 2y ago
you're both correct. All humans have a hardware component, an ideology acts as an attractor. Humans finding connection with other humans like them is one of the strongest pulls for a human mind. It has great power to amplify & grow. This can go in a direction of thriving and growth, and "win win" with their environment, or it can go in a direction of hate and aggression
- mycall 2y ago
  Confirmation of the id.
ta988 2y ago
I see two outcomes usually in the rationalist community: - those who can manipulate language enough to justify their behavior and can then manipulate others - those who modify their behavior and usually have some kind of mental breakdown because of internal conflicts To me it is a predator-prey abusive LARP that got out of scope and feeds on fragile people looking for sense in their lives. Just look at how new comers are hazed and tested when they come on their forums and discords and what not.
- rdtsc 2y ago
  > To me it is a predator-prey abusive LARP that got out of scope and feeds on fragile people looking for sense in their lives. Just look at how new comers are hazed and tested when they come on their forums and discords and what not Yeah I think this is exactly what it is. The most eloquent charlatans end up roping in people who are lost or looking for meaning. It’s always interesting to think how much self awareness the leaders have. Do they drink their own kool-aid or they laughing to themselves while they pouring the next dose for the others?

OmarShehata 2y ago

you're both correct. All humans have a hardware component, an ideology acts as an attractor. Humans finding connection with other humans like them is one of the strongest pulls for a human mind. It has great power to amplify & grow. This can go in a direction of thriving and growth, and "win win" with their environment, or it can go in a direction of hate and aggression

mycall 2y ago
Confirmation of the id.

ta988 2y ago

I see two outcomes usually in the rationalist community: - those who can manipulate language enough to justify their behavior and can then manipulate others - those who modify their behavior and usually have some kind of mental breakdown because of internal conflicts To me it is a predator-prey abusive LARP that got out of scope and feeds on fragile people looking for sense in their lives. Just look at how new comers are hazed and tested when they come on their forums and discords and what not.

rdtsc 2y ago
> To me it is a predator-prey abusive LARP that got out of scope and feeds on fragile people looking for sense in their lives. Just look at how new comers are hazed and tested when they come on their forums and discords and what not Yeah I think this is exactly what it is. The most eloquent charlatans end up roping in people who are lost or looking for meaning. It’s always interesting to think how much self awareness the leaders have. Do they drink their own kool-aid or they laughing to themselves while they pouring the next dose for the others?