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Nobody complained about downtimes (at least for Atlas Plus) when they started changing “sex” to “sex or gender” / “gender.” Let’s be honest. I can’t find a sin

by tlogan 2y ago

Nobody complained about downtimes (at least for Atlas Plus) when they started changing “sex” to “sex or gender” / “gender.” Let’s be honest. I can’t find a single article about this because it was considered normal—they were simply upgrading their system. The level of dishonesty here is astounding. Let’s wait three weeks. If Atlas Plus is still down, I’ll post an update here.

shrillhnpsycho3 2y ago
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fn-mote 2y ago
Please be specific about what you think is dishonest. It sounds like you are conflating a planned information removal with some unspecified amount of upgrade time? Those aren’t equivalent to me.
- tlogan 2y ago
  The specifics: The data is not disappearing. The data and the related tools have been temporarily removed to be cleaned and brought into compliance with Trump’s executive order (basically removing “gender” or replacing it with “sex”) That should be the intellectually honest title and that is what is happening. So lets check in 3 weeks. If data and tools are not back then we can say and complain about data disappearing.
  - IAmNotACellist 2y ago
    It's The Atlantic. They have no interest in being honest about the topic, telling you why the data is unavailable, or saying when it will be back (once they update the language that bookends the studies). The purpose is to make you angry and think they're burning data because they hate science.
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  - nojito 2y ago
    >(basically removing “gender” or replacing it with “sex”) There's no Gender or Sex component to the CDC's SVI methodology why was that dataset removed? https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/community-stress-resource-center/php/resources/social-vulnerability-index.html https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/community-stress-resource-center/p... It's you who is being intellectually dishonest.
    - tlogan 2y ago
      I checked some old data from the Social Vulnerability Index (SVI), and it seems likely that it was removed to comply with Trump’s anti-DEI executive order. I completely agree that SVI becomes less useful if you strip out the “Racial and Ethnic Minority Status” variable. Just wanted to provide an intellectually honest answer about why this page was taken down.

by tlogan 2y ago

shrillhnpsycho3 2y ago

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fn-mote 2y ago

Please be specific about what you think is dishonest. It sounds like you are conflating a planned information removal with some unspecified amount of upgrade time? Those aren’t equivalent to me.

tlogan 2y ago
The specifics: The data is not disappearing. The data and the related tools have been temporarily removed to be cleaned and brought into compliance with Trump’s executive order (basically removing “gender” or replacing it with “sex”) That should be the intellectually honest title and that is what is happening. So lets check in 3 weeks. If data and tools are not back then we can say and complain about data disappearing.
- IAmNotACellist 2y ago
  It's The Atlantic. They have no interest in being honest about the topic, telling you why the data is unavailable, or saying when it will be back (once they update the language that bookends the studies). The purpose is to make you angry and think they're burning data because they hate science.
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- nojito 2y ago
  >(basically removing “gender” or replacing it with “sex”) There's no Gender or Sex component to the CDC's SVI methodology why was that dataset removed? https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/community-stress-resource-center/php/resources/social-vulnerability-index.html https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/community-stress-resource-center/p... It's you who is being intellectually dishonest.
  - tlogan 2y ago
    I checked some old data from the Social Vulnerability Index (SVI), and it seems likely that it was removed to comply with Trump’s anti-DEI executive order. I completely agree that SVI becomes less useful if you strip out the “Racial and Ethnic Minority Status” variable. Just wanted to provide an intellectually honest answer about why this page was taken down.