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> they didn't let people in that were trying to change other people's minds, but that were out to clarify their own thinking. I'm not sure how much we can take
by zozbot234 2y ago
> they didn't let people in that were trying to change other people's minds, but that were out to clarify their own thinking.
I'm not sure how much we can take this at face value, given that the OP mentions a guy (Michael Vassar), who apparently associates himself with the rationalist space and has been accused of brainwashing people and driving them crazy with "mind tricks". There's even been allegations that the now infamous craziness of this Zizian group may effectively be downstream of that.
(An earlier HN discussion is at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42849281 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42849281 )
- lemonberry 2y agoThat could very well be true. However, it's still an important idea to me and, I think, a lot of others. People and organizations change. It's possible the CFAR and its founders started out with one mission or goal and that changed internally for whatever reason.
- Viliam1234 2y agoI have heard a version saying that Vassar changed (after he started experimenting with drugs). And at some moment later, he also got banned from the community.