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Whether or not you’ve been duly elected has nothing to do with whether or not you behave like a fascist afterwards. Most fascists were elected.

liontwist 2y ago
Indeed 20th century fascist revolutions used the guise of law for their takeover. Following them would include banning the existence of other parties, changing the constitution to give all power to executive, cancelling elections, etc. I assumed the poster was using facist to mean “bad authoritarian government” - not that trump is actually a disciple of Mussolini style philosophy. Right now the democratic system is working as designed, minus the incredible power of the executive branch which has been built up since FDR. Obama pioneered this approach to executive order.
- nehal3m 2y ago
  If you ask me those are boxes yet to be ticked, but we’ll see.
- shigawire 2y ago
  >Following them would include banning the existence of other parties, changing the constitution to give all power to executive, cancelling elections, etc. Let's check back on these in a few years (months?).
- tremon 2y ago
  Following them would include Basically, your argument boils down to "you're wrong, the current sitation is not fascist enough yet"? banning the existence of other parties They don't need to. Similar to Russia, they will allow the appearance of other parties and elections, but the outcomes will be pre-determined. changing the constitution to give all power to executive SCOTUS has already done that: everything the president does is legal by default. cancelling elections Again, they won't need to. They proved in November that they already have done the right amount of voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering to secure a win.
  - liontwist 2y ago
    > the current sitation is not fascist enough yet"? You are putting the burden on me to argue they are NOT fascist? (whatever meaning you want to attach to that word) > They proved in November that they already have done the right amount of voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering to secure a win. Ah so you think the election was stolen? > gerrymandering How do you gerrymander state boundaries?
    - tremon 2y ago
      You took that burden upon yourself by choosing to deride the GGP above, who said "The US is undergoing a fascist takeover basically". Don't put this on me, you opened this line of argumentation. I am merely trying to get you to commit to an actual argument with substance rather than deflecting and whining.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  MVSSOLINI HA SEMPRE RAGIONE
peterfirefly 2y ago
Allende is a good example.

liontwist 2y ago

Indeed 20th century fascist revolutions used the guise of law for their takeover. Following them would include banning the existence of other parties, changing the constitution to give all power to executive, cancelling elections, etc. I assumed the poster was using facist to mean “bad authoritarian government” - not that trump is actually a disciple of Mussolini style philosophy. Right now the democratic system is working as designed, minus the incredible power of the executive branch which has been built up since FDR. Obama pioneered this approach to executive order.

nehal3m 2y ago
If you ask me those are boxes yet to be ticked, but we’ll see.
shigawire 2y ago
>Following them would include banning the existence of other parties, changing the constitution to give all power to executive, cancelling elections, etc. Let's check back on these in a few years (months?).
tremon 2y ago
Following them would include Basically, your argument boils down to "you're wrong, the current sitation is not fascist enough yet"? banning the existence of other parties They don't need to. Similar to Russia, they will allow the appearance of other parties and elections, but the outcomes will be pre-determined. changing the constitution to give all power to executive SCOTUS has already done that: everything the president does is legal by default. cancelling elections Again, they won't need to. They proved in November that they already have done the right amount of voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering to secure a win.
- liontwist 2y ago
  > the current sitation is not fascist enough yet"? You are putting the burden on me to argue they are NOT fascist? (whatever meaning you want to attach to that word) > They proved in November that they already have done the right amount of voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering to secure a win. Ah so you think the election was stolen? > gerrymandering How do you gerrymander state boundaries?
  - tremon 2y ago
    You took that burden upon yourself by choosing to deride the GGP above, who said "The US is undergoing a fascist takeover basically". Don't put this on me, you opened this line of argumentation. I am merely trying to get you to commit to an actual argument with substance rather than deflecting and whining.
jazzyjackson 2y ago
MVSSOLINI HA SEMPRE RAGIONE

peterfirefly 2y ago

Allende is a good example.