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It’s because they want to show the output live rather than nothing for a minute. But that means once the censor system detects something, you have to send out a

It’s because they want to show the output live rather than nothing for a minute. But that means once the censor system detects something, you have to send out a request to delete the previously displayed content. This doesn’t matter because censoring the system isn’t that important, they just want to avoid news articles about how their system generated something bad.

bolognafairy 2y ago
Ern, in DeepSeek’s case, it’s not “news articles” that they’d be most concerned about.
- miohtama 2y ago
  They have the same fear as everyone else "teenager learns how to cook napalm from an AI"
  - mantas 2y ago
    More like teenager learns about Tiananmen and Uighurs from AI. Or a joke about men and women in western counterparts.
    - pegasus 2y ago
      The concerns you mention don't exclude the ones GP posits.
  - yndoendo 2y ago
    Don't need AI for such things. Just search for the Anarchist Cookbook in a search engine. [0] Amazon even sells it. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Anarchist-Cookbook-William-Powell/dp/0962303208 https://www.amazon.com/Anarchist-Cookbook-William-Powell/dp/...
    - miohtama 2y ago
      Exactly
bdcp 2y ago
yea but i think the point is they can still filter it server side before streaming it
- Gigachad 2y ago
  They have already streamed the first part of the response before the filtered phrase has even been generated.
  - _fzslm 2y ago
    Could you stream the raw tokens into a server side filter which then streams censored tokens at near real time?
andai 2y ago
Gemini does this too. There was a clip of what it does when you ask it for examples of Google's unethical behavior... the kids call this "watching it get lobotomized in real time."
- freehorse 2y ago
  Have seen chatgpt doing the same too, prob all of them
- Frederation 2y ago
  Counterpoint to your exact prompt. From Gemini, 5 examples asked for: 1. *Antitrust and Monopoly Practices:* Google has faced numerous accusations and lawsuits regarding anti-competitive practices, particularly in search and advertising. They have been accused of manipulating search results to favor their own products and services, and of using their dominance in the ad tech market to stifle competition. 2. *Data Privacy Concerns:* Google collects vast amounts of user data, raising concerns about privacy. They have been criticized for tracking user location even when privacy settings are turned off, and for how they handle and share user data with third parties. 3. *Censorship in China:* Google faced criticism for complying with Chinese censorship laws in the past, filtering search results for content deemed objectionable by the Chinese government. This raised concerns about freedom of information and human rights. 4. *Workplace Issues:* Google has faced allegations of workplace misconduct, including sexual harassment and discrimination. They have also been criticized for their handling of employee complaints and for retaliating against whistleblowers. 5. *Bias in Algorithms:* Google's algorithms, used in search and other products, have been shown to exhibit bias, particularly in how they represent race and gender. This can perpetuate stereotypes and have real-world consequences.

bolognafairy 2y ago

Ern, in DeepSeek’s case, it’s not “news articles” that they’d be most concerned about.

miohtama 2y ago
They have the same fear as everyone else "teenager learns how to cook napalm from an AI"
- mantas 2y ago
  More like teenager learns about Tiananmen and Uighurs from AI. Or a joke about men and women in western counterparts.
  - pegasus 2y ago
    The concerns you mention don't exclude the ones GP posits.
- yndoendo 2y ago
  Don't need AI for such things. Just search for the Anarchist Cookbook in a search engine. [0] Amazon even sells it. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Anarchist-Cookbook-William-Powell/dp/0962303208 https://www.amazon.com/Anarchist-Cookbook-William-Powell/dp/...
  - miohtama 2y ago
    Exactly

bdcp 2y ago

yea but i think the point is they can still filter it server side before streaming it

Gigachad 2y ago
They have already streamed the first part of the response before the filtered phrase has even been generated.
- _fzslm 2y ago
  Could you stream the raw tokens into a server side filter which then streams censored tokens at near real time?

andai 2y ago

Gemini does this too. There was a clip of what it does when you ask it for examples of Google's unethical behavior... the kids call this "watching it get lobotomized in real time."

freehorse 2y ago
Have seen chatgpt doing the same too, prob all of them
Frederation 2y ago
Counterpoint to your exact prompt. From Gemini, 5 examples asked for: 1. *Antitrust and Monopoly Practices:* Google has faced numerous accusations and lawsuits regarding anti-competitive practices, particularly in search and advertising. They have been accused of manipulating search results to favor their own products and services, and of using their dominance in the ad tech market to stifle competition. 2. *Data Privacy Concerns:* Google collects vast amounts of user data, raising concerns about privacy. They have been criticized for tracking user location even when privacy settings are turned off, and for how they handle and share user data with third parties. 3. *Censorship in China:* Google faced criticism for complying with Chinese censorship laws in the past, filtering search results for content deemed objectionable by the Chinese government. This raised concerns about freedom of information and human rights. 4. *Workplace Issues:* Google has faced allegations of workplace misconduct, including sexual harassment and discrimination. They have also been criticized for their handling of employee complaints and for retaliating against whistleblowers. 5. *Bias in Algorithms:* Google's algorithms, used in search and other products, have been shown to exhibit bias, particularly in how they represent race and gender. This can perpetuate stereotypes and have real-world consequences.