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Agreed, I think music is one of the areas which it nails though (pun intended). The size of the human input can be very small and still produce very high qualit

Agreed, I think music is one of the areas which it nails though (pun intended). The size of the human input can be very small and still produce very high quality output. I mean you can produce 0 input and fully automate it and it will still sound professional... Maybe it will lack a bit of creativity but typically only a professional would be able to know that. I think what Suno produces is often higher quality and more creative than what most modern pop stars produce... Just because the bar there happens to be quite low. If I listen to 80s music, I can see the creativity gap (at least relative to the AI's typical ouput)... But AI output is often superior to modern artists IMO.

bccdee 2y ago
> Maybe it will lack a bit of creativity but typically only a professional would be able to know that. Judging by the examples on suno.com, no. All of these are noticeably sub-par. They're "professional" in the way that slapping a lens flair png on top of a photo makes the photo look "professional." > I think what Suno produces is often higher quality and more creative than what most modern pop stars produce Go listen to any song from Taylor Swift's latest album. I'm not a Swift fan, and I don't particularly enjoy her music, but she's the current face of pop music. Compare the texture of the instrumentation with anything produced by suno's model—it's night and day. I worry that the novelty of generative models that cater to their users' every whim will create a culture that is uninterested in anything challenging or new. Who would bother to look for good art when an endless fountain of bad art is right at our fingertips? For goodness' sake, you didn't even listen to a pop song before deciding that "most" modern pop artists are worse than "suno.com." I don't even like pop music, but that's just false on the face of it.
- egypturnash 2y ago
  Really I think we may be a good ways towards that last paragraph just from algorithms designed to drown users in whatever content they have recently consumed. (I hate the term "content" because it's so associated with this sort of view, but it's exactly right here.)
- jongjong 2y ago
  Taylor Swift did make a few good pieces but many of her songs are too similar to each other IMO. I can acknowledge that 'Blank Space' is very good even though it's not my favorite genre of music though. That said, I think there are a lot of great pieces that we've never heard of. Just because something isn't popular doesn't mean it's not great. Especially true nowadays when media is so centralized and people are drowning in content from a handful of celebrities; this is making it impossible for great pieces from non-celebrities to break through... We live in a time of information and intelligence explosion and at the same time total media monopolization; the best pieces will never be heard. Also, the best work of humanity of the coming century will be ignored.

bccdee 2y ago

> Maybe it will lack a bit of creativity but typically only a professional would be able to know that. Judging by the examples on suno.com, no. All of these are noticeably sub-par. They're "professional" in the way that slapping a lens flair png on top of a photo makes the photo look "professional." > I think what Suno produces is often higher quality and more creative than what most modern pop stars produce Go listen to any song from Taylor Swift's latest album. I'm not a Swift fan, and I don't particularly enjoy her music, but she's the current face of pop music. Compare the texture of the instrumentation with anything produced by suno's model—it's night and day. I worry that the novelty of generative models that cater to their users' every whim will create a culture that is uninterested in anything challenging or new. Who would bother to look for good art when an endless fountain of bad art is right at our fingertips? For goodness' sake, you didn't even listen to a pop song before deciding that "most" modern pop artists are worse than "suno.com." I don't even like pop music, but that's just false on the face of it.

egypturnash 2y ago
Really I think we may be a good ways towards that last paragraph just from algorithms designed to drown users in whatever content they have recently consumed. (I hate the term "content" because it's so associated with this sort of view, but it's exactly right here.)
jongjong 2y ago
Taylor Swift did make a few good pieces but many of her songs are too similar to each other IMO. I can acknowledge that 'Blank Space' is very good even though it's not my favorite genre of music though. That said, I think there are a lot of great pieces that we've never heard of. Just because something isn't popular doesn't mean it's not great. Especially true nowadays when media is so centralized and people are drowning in content from a handful of celebrities; this is making it impossible for great pieces from non-celebrities to break through... We live in a time of information and intelligence explosion and at the same time total media monopolization; the best pieces will never be heard. Also, the best work of humanity of the coming century will be ignored.