> If you take a very narrow view of "make money" > They are immensely valuable to the owners This is, of course, the entire point of this entire thread. Its

> If you take a very narrow view of "make money" > They are immensely valuable to the owners This is, of course, the entire point of this entire thread. Its not a particularly "narrow" view, FWIW, because most businesses have a P&L sheet that will list expenses and revenues, and entire business units have big "costs" and not so big "revenue". Which is what "don't make money" means.