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I believe this is superseded by the Willow protocol [0] which was posted here a while back. I tried to read about Willow, but could never make heads or tails o

I believe this is superseded by the Willow protocol [0] which was posted here a while back. I tried to read about Willow, but could never make heads or tails of it [1]. It seems to be a hierarchical key value store with a bunch of extra fields for timestamps and cryptographic tokens, but it's woefully short on working examples. Even the recent Rust library [2] is effectively a bunch of abstract classes with implementations that just throw errors. I could make a quip about the state of European tech sophistication, but I'll let it pass with a polite smile. [0] https://willowprotocol.org/earthstar/spec/ https://willowprotocol.org/earthstar/spec/ [1] https://willowprotocol.org/specs/data-model/index.html#data_model https://willowprotocol.org/specs/data-model/index.html#data_... [2] https://github.com/earthstar-project/willow-rs/tree/main https://github.com/earthstar-project/willow-rs/tree/main

Fnoord 2y ago
It is funded by NLnet. For a list of NLnet funded projects [1]. Any FOSS project can apply [2]. [1] https://nlnet.nl/project/current.html https://nlnet.nl/project/current.html [2] https://nlnet.nl/funding.html https://nlnet.nl/funding.html
saranshsharma 2y ago
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jazzyjackson 2y ago
I was going to say what the sibling said, no need for snark, NLnet funds a ton of cool projects. If I were to judge the quality of software written in silicon valley on the vc funded projects that don't pan out, god help me
omnimus 2y ago
Yeah one person open-source project says everything about the state of European tech sophistocation.
- PaulRobinson 2y ago
  Just like how Linux and Python started out and crashed and burned and nobody ever uses them any more lol Mate, what are you actually on about?
culi 2y ago
The website literally says "Earthstar has a new specification powered by Willow." in a banner at the very top
madacol 2y ago
they seem to be the same people behind Willow: https://earthstar-project.org/docs/future#willow-protocol https://earthstar-project.org/docs/future#willow-protocol > All of these above features are enabled by the new Willow General Purpose Sync Protocol we've been working on. It's a new protocol inspired by Earthstar, refining and building upon its concepts. We will be publishing a new website with complete specifications for this protocol. --- https://willowprotocol.org/more/compare/index.html#compare_es https://willowprotocol.org/more/compare/index.html#compare_e... > If Earthstar feels very similar to Willow, then that is no coincidence. Willow started out as a reimagining of Earthstar, future Earthstar versions will build upon Willow, and the core maintainer of Earthstar is one of the two Willow authors.

Fnoord 2y ago

It is funded by NLnet. For a list of NLnet funded projects [1]. Any FOSS project can apply [2]. [1] https://nlnet.nl/project/current.html https://nlnet.nl/project/current.html [2] https://nlnet.nl/funding.html https://nlnet.nl/funding.html

saranshsharma 2y ago

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jazzyjackson 2y ago

I was going to say what the sibling said, no need for snark, NLnet funds a ton of cool projects. If I were to judge the quality of software written in silicon valley on the vc funded projects that don't pan out, god help me

omnimus 2y ago

Yeah one person open-source project says everything about the state of European tech sophistocation.

PaulRobinson 2y ago
Just like how Linux and Python started out and crashed and burned and nobody ever uses them any more lol Mate, what are you actually on about?

culi 2y ago

The website literally says "Earthstar has a new specification powered by Willow." in a banner at the very top

madacol 2y ago

they seem to be the same people behind Willow: https://earthstar-project.org/docs/future#willow-protocol https://earthstar-project.org/docs/future#willow-protocol > All of these above features are enabled by the new Willow General Purpose Sync Protocol we've been working on. It's a new protocol inspired by Earthstar, refining and building upon its concepts. We will be publishing a new website with complete specifications for this protocol. --- https://willowprotocol.org/more/compare/index.html#compare_es https://willowprotocol.org/more/compare/index.html#compare_e... > If Earthstar feels very similar to Willow, then that is no coincidence. Willow started out as a reimagining of Earthstar, future Earthstar versions will build upon Willow, and the core maintainer of Earthstar is one of the two Willow authors.