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> defy the current administration? Sounds pretty anti-democratic to me defying an administration that you disagree with, within the rule of law, is just about

• gruez 2y ago
  >defying an administration that you disagree with, within the rule of law, is just about the most American and democratic thing I can imagine. Purdue Pharma caused the opioid crisis which killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. State and federal governments thinks it's liable for billions in damages. Perdue disagrees and is fighting it tooth and nail in the courts, which is within their rights. Would you characterize this as "the most American and democratic thing I can imagine"?
  • ceejayoz 2y ago
    Having the right to attempt to defend yourself in court - even if you're a shitty person/organization - is very American, yes. Electing governments in part to try and prosecute said shitty people/organizations is similarly quite democratic.
    • gruez 2y ago
      >Having the right to attempt to defend yourself in court - even if you're a shitty person/organization - is very American, yes. I'm not arguing they shouldn't have the right to defend themselves in court, only that most people wouldn't think that as being "patriotic". It's also not hard to find people characterizing Citizens United v. FEC as "undemocratic", even though it theoretically emobies the democratic principles of free speech and the supreme court acting as a check.
      • intermerda 2y ago
        “It happened so it’s democratic” is such an incredibly naive take bordering on bad faith.