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> the DOJ argued that Saine has no right to a real judge and jury because the government was only trying to take his money, not his property Ummm... let's hope
by mrbluecoat 2y ago
> the DOJ argued that Saine has no right to a real judge and jury because the government was only trying to take his money, not his property
Ummm... let's hope my passport is still considered property, as I seriously consider leaving this madness.
- pockmarked19 2y agoPassports are usually considered to be the property of the issuing government. Some of them even say as much inside.
- sidewndr46 2y agolast time I checked don't US passports even mention how it doesn't guarantee you anything?
- StefanBatory 2y agoBack under the communist rule in Eastern Europe you'd get your passports only after being vetted, and they'd be held up at a police station. Given out only when your trip starts.
- ty6853 2y agoGetting out is easy. 9 times of 10 the Mexican Federalis don't even check for one.
- autoexec 2y agoThe wealthy have been getting citizenship in other countries and building "passport portfolios" in record numbers for a reason. Always good to have an exit strategy when your own government is increasingly corrupt and society is breaking down. You can buy your way into a lot of countries at very affordable rates (https://www.businessinsider.com/cheapest-countries-where-you-can-buy-citizenship-or-residency-2022-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/cheapest-countries-where-you...) and there are citizenship brokers that can help you.