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If Musk had a lot of power, why did Trump invite Sam Altman to speak and spoke positively of him? Musk and Altman hate each other.

scarface_74 2y ago
Musk is literally an appointed government official of a made up department
- ImJamal 2y ago
  DOGE is not a government department and as such any members of it are not government officials Regardless, what does that have to do with Musk having one of his enemies given a spot light by Trump?
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta...
    - ImJamal 2y ago
      There were so many Executive Orders I completely missed that. Regardless, the news articles I just checked seems to indicate that Musk has not actually joined the government agency at this point. Even if he has, it is irrelevant to my actual argument. If Musk wields power with Trump then why was Altman given a platform? Musk and Altman aren't fans of each other. Trump even said Elon hates Altman.
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        https://fortune.com/2025/01/30/elon-musk-return-to-office-extremes-sleeping-doge-dc-headquarters/ https://fortune.com/2025/01/30/elon-musk-return-to-office-ex... > Musk, heading said operations, says he is working out of DOGE’s headquarters in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building
        ImJamal 2y ago
        Again, I don't care about any of this. Please address my actual argument. Going off on this tangent makes me suspect you have no response to my argument.
        scarface_74 2y ago
        You’ve been wrong twice already. Do you really want to keep this line of questioning? None of them “like” each other. Do you really think Tim Cook - a gay man from Alabama - wants to be in the same room with Trump and Christian conservatives? It’s all about access
        ImJamal 2y ago
        I've been on wrong on things that are completely irrelevant and you failed to address the actual point over multiple posts. > None of them “like” each other. Perhaps, but not all of them are suing each other like Musk is doing with Altman. > Do you really think Tim Cook - a gay man from Alabama - wants to be in the same room with Trump and Christian conservatives? It’s all about access Believe it or not, but people can be friendly and enjoy other people's company even if they have political disagreements. I'm not saying that is the case here, but some people aren't as obsessed with politics as you seem to be. Trump was the first president to come into office supporting legal gay marriage so I doubt Cook being gay is an issue with Trump...
        scarface_74 2y ago
        Really? You have seen how he is having the federal government scrub literally any mention of gay from any website? And you were wrong about DOGE being an official government department and Musk being in charge of it. How much more influence could Musk have? He is literally running the same playbook with the federal government as he did with Twitter. Altman is just a trophy piece to be brought out for pictures like Cook
        ImJamal 2y ago
  - myko 2y ago
    Not exactly. DOGE is what trump renamed the government "Digital Service Office" before giving Musk control: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-states-digital-service-elon-musk-usds-trump-white-house-eop-omb https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-sta... Vivek wanted an outside group, Musk wanted an inside group - Musk won so trump gave him this
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danans 2y ago
If you think any of them (or any of the administration's assembly of billionaires) don't hate each other, you might be misunderstanding how the wealthy and powerful think. Every interaction is transactional and artificial, based on leverage, whether personal or financial, not on "friendship" or "shared values".
rcpt 2y ago
He has enough power to take over the office of personnel management and access personal information about every Fed employee. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-computer-systems-us-agency-sources-say-2025-01-31/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-...

scarface_74 2y ago

Musk is literally an appointed government official of a made up department

ImJamal 2y ago
DOGE is not a government department and as such any members of it are not government officials Regardless, what does that have to do with Musk having one of his enemies given a spot light by Trump?
- scarface_74 2y ago
  https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta...
  - ImJamal 2y ago
    There were so many Executive Orders I completely missed that. Regardless, the news articles I just checked seems to indicate that Musk has not actually joined the government agency at this point. Even if he has, it is irrelevant to my actual argument. If Musk wields power with Trump then why was Altman given a platform? Musk and Altman aren't fans of each other. Trump even said Elon hates Altman.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      https://fortune.com/2025/01/30/elon-musk-return-to-office-extremes-sleeping-doge-dc-headquarters/ https://fortune.com/2025/01/30/elon-musk-return-to-office-ex... > Musk, heading said operations, says he is working out of DOGE’s headquarters in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building
      - ImJamal 2y ago
        Again, I don't care about any of this. Please address my actual argument. Going off on this tangent makes me suspect you have no response to my argument.
        scarface_74 2y ago
        You’ve been wrong twice already. Do you really want to keep this line of questioning? None of them “like” each other. Do you really think Tim Cook - a gay man from Alabama - wants to be in the same room with Trump and Christian conservatives? It’s all about access
        ImJamal 2y ago
        I've been on wrong on things that are completely irrelevant and you failed to address the actual point over multiple posts. > None of them “like” each other. Perhaps, but not all of them are suing each other like Musk is doing with Altman. > Do you really think Tim Cook - a gay man from Alabama - wants to be in the same room with Trump and Christian conservatives? It’s all about access Believe it or not, but people can be friendly and enjoy other people's company even if they have political disagreements. I'm not saying that is the case here, but some people aren't as obsessed with politics as you seem to be. Trump was the first president to come into office supporting legal gay marriage so I doubt Cook being gay is an issue with Trump...
        scarface_74 2y ago
        Really? You have seen how he is having the federal government scrub literally any mention of gay from any website? And you were wrong about DOGE being an official government department and Musk being in charge of it. How much more influence could Musk have? He is literally running the same playbook with the federal government as he did with Twitter. Altman is just a trophy piece to be brought out for pictures like Cook
        ImJamal 2y ago
- myko 2y ago
  Not exactly. DOGE is what trump renamed the government "Digital Service Office" before giving Musk control: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-states-digital-service-elon-musk-usds-trump-white-house-eop-omb https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-sta... Vivek wanted an outside group, Musk wanted an inside group - Musk won so trump gave him this
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danans 2y ago

If you think any of them (or any of the administration's assembly of billionaires) don't hate each other, you might be misunderstanding how the wealthy and powerful think. Every interaction is transactional and artificial, based on leverage, whether personal or financial, not on "friendship" or "shared values".

rcpt 2y ago

He has enough power to take over the office of personnel management and access personal information about every Fed employee. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-computer-systems-us-agency-sources-say-2025-01-31/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-...