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LOL! You can't even switch topics without being wrong. Your figure comes from this report [0], which disputes your China figure. > Figures for [...] China are

LOL! You can't even switch topics without being wrong. Your figure comes from this report [0], which disputes your China figure. > Figures for [...] China are incomplete[...] The China figures are for sentenced prisoners only. Figures for pre-trial detention and other forms of detention are not available; more than 650,000 were so held in 2009 (Supreme People’s Procuratorate). In addition, it is widely reported that more than a million Uighur Muslims are detained in camps in Xinjiang province. Thanks for the laugh. [0] https://www.prisonstudies.org/sites/default/files/resources/downloads/world_prison_population_list_14th_edition.pdf https://www.prisonstudies.org/sites/default/files/resources/...

DrScientist 2y ago
If you add those numbers - which are guess work - then the US is still ahead per capita - rather 5x more than China - simply ~2.5x. So you are trying to deflect again - and I notice you haven't address the key point - the existence of legalized enforced labour in the US. If you dislike what China is doing then you should also be worried about what's happening in the US.
- caminante 2y ago
  > If you add those numbers - which are guess work Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point! How are you adding a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims? If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?
  - DrScientist 2y ago
    Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will. Still not pausing to think?
    - caminante 2y ago
      > Still avoiding the key point... ...which your own source undermines. I can't defend your own arguments for you without quality figures.
      - DrScientist 2y ago
        You threw shades at China for incarnating too many of it's own people, and being a key greenhouse gas emitter - both are true - I'm just pointing out that for both of those areas - the US beats China around 2:1 on a per capita basis if you look at the numbers. The US incarceration numbers in particular are extraordinary - about 1 in 7 of the worlds prison population is in the US. I'd be interested in your opinion of why that is.

DrScientist 2y ago

If you add those numbers - which are guess work - then the US is still ahead per capita - rather 5x more than China - simply ~2.5x. So you are trying to deflect again - and I notice you haven't address the key point - the existence of legalized enforced labour in the US. If you dislike what China is doing then you should also be worried about what's happening in the US.

caminante 2y ago
> If you add those numbers - which are guess work Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point! How are you adding a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims? If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?
- DrScientist 2y ago
  Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will. Still not pausing to think?
  - caminante 2y ago
    > Still avoiding the key point... ...which your own source undermines. I can't defend your own arguments for you without quality figures.
    - DrScientist 2y ago
      You threw shades at China for incarnating too many of it's own people, and being a key greenhouse gas emitter - both are true - I'm just pointing out that for both of those areas - the US beats China around 2:1 on a per capita basis if you look at the numbers. The US incarceration numbers in particular are extraordinary - about 1 in 7 of the worlds prison population is in the US. I'd be interested in your opinion of why that is.