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Might be fine for non-critical entertainment systems which nowadays also take voice control, but never critical vehicle functions. Things like hazard lights and

by _yb2s 2y ago

Might be fine for non-critical entertainment systems which nowadays also take voice control, but never critical vehicle functions. Things like hazard lights and HVAC should be illegal to be on touch screens.

Lammy 2y ago
> Might be fine for non-critical entertainment systems which nowadays also take voice control As someone who uses a lot of greasy sunscreen lotion during long sunny-day drives: no, they still aren't. I don't want to talk to my car in the first place, and it probably couldn't hear me anyway with the music loud and the windows down.
- Diti 2y ago
  Owner of a 2017 Peugeot 208 with Apple CarPlay support here. Siri can discriminate voices against loud music and outside noise just fine.
- _yb2s 2y ago
  I drive a convertible with the top almost always down, and have an unusually deep voice, and also hate talking to phones/cars. With my voice, I could never get Alexa or similar things to work at all- until the last few months when Apple's Siri started working perfectly at recognizing everything I say. I don't love it, but I have to begrudgingly emit it works, and is safer to use. It works even with the top down on the freeway, and music is auto paused while it listens. I have it on a button so I have to press it first for it to listen, and basically only use it for selecting navigation destinations and music.
lelandbatey 2y ago
Add "turning on the windshield wipers" and "indicating with your blinker" to that list. Looking at you Tesla with your death-trap touch screen controls.
- _yb2s 2y ago
  You have to use a touch screen for those on a Tesla? If true that is asinine, those cars aren't safe to drive.
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Yes, for wipers you need to make window swiping gesture on the screen and for wipers you tap 3 times on either side of screen.
    - _yb2s 2y ago
      On my 25 year old Porsche that cost less than a FSD software subscription I can do those things with the tips of my fingers while pulling 1G in a turn with my eyes on the road and hands on the wheel.
      - dzhiurgis 2y ago
        Walking is free and you don’t have to do any of these things.

by _yb2s 2y ago

Lammy 2y ago

> Might be fine for non-critical entertainment systems which nowadays also take voice control As someone who uses a lot of greasy sunscreen lotion during long sunny-day drives: no, they still aren't. I don't want to talk to my car in the first place, and it probably couldn't hear me anyway with the music loud and the windows down.

Diti 2y ago
Owner of a 2017 Peugeot 208 with Apple CarPlay support here. Siri can discriminate voices against loud music and outside noise just fine.
_yb2s 2y ago
I drive a convertible with the top almost always down, and have an unusually deep voice, and also hate talking to phones/cars. With my voice, I could never get Alexa or similar things to work at all- until the last few months when Apple's Siri started working perfectly at recognizing everything I say. I don't love it, but I have to begrudgingly emit it works, and is safer to use. It works even with the top down on the freeway, and music is auto paused while it listens. I have it on a button so I have to press it first for it to listen, and basically only use it for selecting navigation destinations and music.

lelandbatey 2y ago

Add "turning on the windshield wipers" and "indicating with your blinker" to that list. Looking at you Tesla with your death-trap touch screen controls.

_yb2s 2y ago
You have to use a touch screen for those on a Tesla? If true that is asinine, those cars aren't safe to drive.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Yes, for wipers you need to make window swiping gesture on the screen and for wipers you tap 3 times on either side of screen.
  - _yb2s 2y ago
    On my 25 year old Porsche that cost less than a FSD software subscription I can do those things with the tips of my fingers while pulling 1G in a turn with my eyes on the road and hands on the wheel.
    - dzhiurgis 2y ago
      Walking is free and you don’t have to do any of these things.