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It's funny but I see a parallel between your line of reasoning about global warming and the reasoning of those who believe in creation, and deny evolution. The

It's funny but I see a parallel between your line of reasoning about global warming and the reasoning of those who believe in creation, and deny evolution. There are scientists who advocate creation, not evolution and there is no easy way to "prove evolution" as an absolute fact. People have their reasons for ignoring proofs of evolution and others have their reasons for ignoring proofs of global warming.

jebblue 14y ago
What degree of evolution? That things change? That this change is observable? Or that man evolved from apes. If the latter, a) why are there still apes, b) where is the missing link?
- ktizo 14y ago
  a) We are apes, as are chimpanzees and gorillas and bonobos, etc. b) I think we may have just found you.
  - julianz 14y ago
    <giggle> It's not ad hominem when the target is an ape ;-)
    - jebblue 14y ago
      Your comment was also a personal insult.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      Not true, the great apes are all classified as hominidae.
  - jebblue 14y ago
    Your comment was a personal insult.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      Only in an exceptionally mild way, and no worse than you should reasonably expect from posting absurdly uninformed critiques of basic science to a technology oriented online community. Besides, I meant it more for humour than offense, as I find it hard to resist such a good feed line.
- nl 14y ago
  where is the missing link? Are people seriously still asking this? There is a whole list of "human missing links" on Wikipedia[1]. The best preserved are the Australopithecus afarensis set of skeletons[2]. It is thought that A. afarensis was more closely related to the genus Homo (which includes the modern human species Homo sapiens), whether as a direct ancestor or a close relative of an unknown ancestor, than any other known primate from the same time. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis
- leot 14y ago
  There is tons (literally) of evidence that evolution is real, from a wide range of independent, disparate sources. Here's one: the fact that volcanic islands, which have land that has been historically only accessible to birds, have a number of bird species that have filled ecological niches normally filled by rodents. Here's another: you can see in the fossil record progressive changes. Sure, there are missing links, but try coming up with an explanation that fits the islands fact (above) as well as this one. In addition, have it explain, in a way that permits further predictions, 10 other otherwise independent sources of evidence.
- rblackwater 14y ago
  If Christians came from Jews, why are there still Jews?
- jsmcgd 14y ago
  I cannot believe I'm reading this on HN.

jebblue 14y ago

What degree of evolution? That things change? That this change is observable? Or that man evolved from apes. If the latter, a) why are there still apes, b) where is the missing link?

ktizo 14y ago
a) We are apes, as are chimpanzees and gorillas and bonobos, etc. b) I think we may have just found you.
- julianz 14y ago
  <giggle> It's not ad hominem when the target is an ape ;-)
  - jebblue 14y ago
    Your comment was also a personal insult.
  - ktizo 14y ago
    Not true, the great apes are all classified as hominidae.
- jebblue 14y ago
  Your comment was a personal insult.
  - ktizo 14y ago
    Only in an exceptionally mild way, and no worse than you should reasonably expect from posting absurdly uninformed critiques of basic science to a technology oriented online community. Besides, I meant it more for humour than offense, as I find it hard to resist such a good feed line.
nl 14y ago
where is the missing link? Are people seriously still asking this? There is a whole list of "human missing links" on Wikipedia[1]. The best preserved are the Australopithecus afarensis set of skeletons[2]. It is thought that A. afarensis was more closely related to the genus Homo (which includes the modern human species Homo sapiens), whether as a direct ancestor or a close relative of an unknown ancestor, than any other known primate from the same time. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis
leot 14y ago
There is tons (literally) of evidence that evolution is real, from a wide range of independent, disparate sources. Here's one: the fact that volcanic islands, which have land that has been historically only accessible to birds, have a number of bird species that have filled ecological niches normally filled by rodents. Here's another: you can see in the fossil record progressive changes. Sure, there are missing links, but try coming up with an explanation that fits the islands fact (above) as well as this one. In addition, have it explain, in a way that permits further predictions, 10 other otherwise independent sources of evidence.
rblackwater 14y ago
If Christians came from Jews, why are there still Jews?
jsmcgd 14y ago
I cannot believe I'm reading this on HN.