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That's one reason that we personally vet every signup request for the app I run. One of the services that we offer, is users being able to (anonymously) reach

That's one reason that we personally vet every signup request for the app I run. One of the services that we offer, is users being able to (anonymously) reach out to each other for help. If we have "looky-loos," or even scammers, it's not particularly good. Scammers usually have no use for our app. It's really too anonymous and locked-down, and our users tend to be fairly poor (and scammer-wise -some are even reformed scammers). Faecesbook is a much richer hunting ground. They may sign in once (if they were able to get us to admit them, which takes a bit of work), and then never come back. Some of them never log in, because they don't actually look at their emails. If they never log in, then we delete the account after 30 days. Looky-loos, on the other hand, are a pain in the ass, because they will log in once, peer around, realize the app has nothing for them, and never come back. We need to wait a year to delete their account. We absolutely don't care about scale. We may never have more than a few thousand users. We haven't even reached 1,000, and it's been a year. I tested the app with 12,000 fake users, so it can handle that.

jprete 2y ago
Your comment about looky-loos got me thinking about real-world socialization. People who hang around the edge of a group in the real world, looking like they're trying not to be noticed, get pegged as creepy - it looks like predator behavior in the wild! The group then has a reason to either invite them to participate or keep them out - otherwise they're making the space feel unsafe. The edge-hangers have two good choices: They can be very visibly present and then join the conversation when an opportunity presents itself, or they can leave. Social-media edge-hangers don't have to do anything, they can just hang there forever without clearly joining or leaving the group.
- PaulHoule 2y ago
  In in activist group there is always a concern, founded or not, that law enforcement, opposition groups, or opposed individuals will try to infilitrate the group. People who are in this situation [1] in regards to romantic attraction also are creepy as hell. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approach-avoidance_conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approach-avoidance_conflict
  - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
    In our community, it's actually very well-founded. There are many that wish us harm, so discretion is a habit.
  - carlosjobim 2y ago
    The Erev Rav...
throw-qqqqq 2y ago
> Looky-loos, on the other hand, are a pain in the ass, because they will log in once, peer around, realize the app has nothing for them, and never come back I am not a native English speaker, so may be wrong, but as I understand the word, a looky-loo is derogatory for someone with no real intention to buy. If users do not “realize the app has nothing for them” (your words) before trying the app, by this definition they are NOT looky-loos and you’re unfairly deriding them by calling them that :) In my humble opinion. No judging and no big deal, just a bit too harsh for my tastes.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
  Actually, they have plenty of opportunity to realize that it's not for them. We have a site, and the app store page is quite verbose, with videos and a full set of screenshots. One set of folks that might like it, are Zoombombers. They sign up, hoping to use it to cause harm to others, then realize that it isn't actually very good for that. The people the app Serves have a lot of haters (I’m sure some of them hang out here). I try to do my best to shield them; or at least, not make it too easy to attack them. People tend to be cruel, shallow, and puerile. The Internet has allowed us to really riff on our Ids. BTW: As I’m sure you are aware, “Looky-loo” was the term used in the article. It’s not one that I have ever used, myself, or plan to, in the future.

jprete 2y ago

Your comment about looky-loos got me thinking about real-world socialization. People who hang around the edge of a group in the real world, looking like they're trying not to be noticed, get pegged as creepy - it looks like predator behavior in the wild! The group then has a reason to either invite them to participate or keep them out - otherwise they're making the space feel unsafe. The edge-hangers have two good choices: They can be very visibly present and then join the conversation when an opportunity presents itself, or they can leave. Social-media edge-hangers don't have to do anything, they can just hang there forever without clearly joining or leaving the group.

PaulHoule 2y ago
In in activist group there is always a concern, founded or not, that law enforcement, opposition groups, or opposed individuals will try to infilitrate the group. People who are in this situation [1] in regards to romantic attraction also are creepy as hell. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approach-avoidance_conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approach-avoidance_conflict
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
  In our community, it's actually very well-founded. There are many that wish us harm, so discretion is a habit.
- carlosjobim 2y ago
  The Erev Rav...

throw-qqqqq 2y ago

> Looky-loos, on the other hand, are a pain in the ass, because they will log in once, peer around, realize the app has nothing for them, and never come back I am not a native English speaker, so may be wrong, but as I understand the word, a looky-loo is derogatory for someone with no real intention to buy. If users do not “realize the app has nothing for them” (your words) before trying the app, by this definition they are NOT looky-loos and you’re unfairly deriding them by calling them that :) In my humble opinion. No judging and no big deal, just a bit too harsh for my tastes.

ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
Actually, they have plenty of opportunity to realize that it's not for them. We have a site, and the app store page is quite verbose, with videos and a full set of screenshots. One set of folks that might like it, are Zoombombers. They sign up, hoping to use it to cause harm to others, then realize that it isn't actually very good for that. The people the app Serves have a lot of haters (I’m sure some of them hang out here). I try to do my best to shield them; or at least, not make it too easy to attack them. People tend to be cruel, shallow, and puerile. The Internet has allowed us to really riff on our Ids. BTW: As I’m sure you are aware, “Looky-loo” was the term used in the article. It’s not one that I have ever used, myself, or plan to, in the future.