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It is still a problem today. I lived in SF for a stretch working at non-FANG tech companies, and I met a lot of people who worked for Apple, Facebook, and Googl

by mu53 2y ago

It is still a problem today. I lived in SF for a stretch working at non-FANG tech companies, and I met a lot of people who worked for Apple, Facebook, and Google. After meeting some of those people at a meditation group, they began being creepy by making obtuse, but oddly specific comments on things that I was doing online to suggest they were. I got creeped out and stopped going to that class. I began meeting friends or friends of their friends at different places. Ultimately, it escalated to the point that an employee at Apple was leaving poisoned treats outside of my door and then listening me dealing with my dog being sick. You cannot talk about any of this because its really easy for the stalkers to deny its happening. There are no laws in this area yet. If you try to complain or get anyone's attention, guess who is watching your every move. The exact same people that are committing the crimes. People will look back at today at the political or social strife, and they will wonder how we never connected the dots.

nosefrog 2y ago
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- mu53 2y ago
  i got receipts, but this is exactly the type of attitude that is so problematic
- lesuorac 2y ago
  Seems easier to just get a camera to actually catch people leaving poisonous treats.
  - trod1234 2y ago
    Not so easy. New WiFi Camera's show up in the location maps that these people may have access to. Desperate homeless may be coerced to do the deed, while the malevolent person sits back and watches. Some people seem to think these things don't happen, but they do. Just look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal for a perfect example, there are plenty of things that never make it to this level of harassment where there is no proof.
    - lesuorac 2y ago
      I'm not sure the link is making the argument you want it do. Epstein would probably make for a better link where people endless told the FBI what he was up to and they did nothing until forced by the Palm Beach PB (who actually started to do something) and so the FBI had to settle with down playing the charges as much as they possibly could. Your link is a demonstration of if you do collect evidence the police will prosecute.
      - trod1234 2y ago
        It makes the point that was intended, which was this 'is' happening, and that without a preponderance of evidence its a he said she said with no action being taken (even if it did happen). As for Epstein being a better link, no that is not the case for a lot of sound reasons I won't be getting into here. > Your link is a demonstration of if you do collect evidence the police will prosecute. No it is not. Its a demonstration that these things happen from a reputable source that has been documented. The implication you make is quite different, and its unsupportable because its based in fallacy. Having data that something has happened doesn't mean the police will prosecute, or that any action will be taken to correct. The two are independent.

by mu53 2y ago

nosefrog 2y ago

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mu53 2y ago
i got receipts, but this is exactly the type of attitude that is so problematic
lesuorac 2y ago
Seems easier to just get a camera to actually catch people leaving poisonous treats.
- trod1234 2y ago
  Not so easy. New WiFi Camera's show up in the location maps that these people may have access to. Desperate homeless may be coerced to do the deed, while the malevolent person sits back and watches. Some people seem to think these things don't happen, but they do. Just look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal for a perfect example, there are plenty of things that never make it to this level of harassment where there is no proof.
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    I'm not sure the link is making the argument you want it do. Epstein would probably make for a better link where people endless told the FBI what he was up to and they did nothing until forced by the Palm Beach PB (who actually started to do something) and so the FBI had to settle with down playing the charges as much as they possibly could. Your link is a demonstration of if you do collect evidence the police will prosecute.
    - trod1234 2y ago
      It makes the point that was intended, which was this 'is' happening, and that without a preponderance of evidence its a he said she said with no action being taken (even if it did happen). As for Epstein being a better link, no that is not the case for a lot of sound reasons I won't be getting into here. > Your link is a demonstration of if you do collect evidence the police will prosecute. No it is not. Its a demonstration that these things happen from a reputable source that has been documented. The implication you make is quite different, and its unsupportable because its based in fallacy. Having data that something has happened doesn't mean the police will prosecute, or that any action will be taken to correct. The two are independent.