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Many of us cared ever since Musk announced to buy Twitter. But we were shitstormed and downvoted into oblivion here and on Reddit for sounding the alarm bells..

Many of us cared ever since Musk announced to buy Twitter. But we were shitstormed and downvoted into oblivion here and on Reddit for sounding the alarm bells... and now, look where we stand. The salute made people care because it was completely and utterly undeniable evidence. Of course, people still try to excuse even that, but a lot of the Musk apologists got pretty silent after it.

blurbleblurble 2y ago
Even before the Twitter buyout, that guy has exhibited questionable behavior for decades.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  Not that much to be honest. Yeah, he cycled through spouses, smoked pot live on a podcast and had a sometimes ... reckless attitude, but constantly delivered in exchange - without Musk, we'd still be stuck getting fleeced by ULA/EADS, ICE car manufacturers bribing politicians to soften emissions regulations and satellite internet being GEO only. "Old Musk" was a bit much at times, but acceptable in exchange for how society profited from his unwillingness to accept a "no". "New Musk" has that same unwillingness but is willing to destroy democracy itself, and that makes him orders of magnitude more dangerous.
  - blurbleblurble 2y ago
    I beg to differ. The way he bullied business partners has always been trash.
    - mschuster91 2y ago
      Yeah but that's just ordinary rich-dude behavior, it's not unique to him by far.
  - ben_w 2y ago
    Old musk called a guy a pedo for daring to tell him that a submarine wouldn't help in a cave rescue. Musk didn't learn from getting sued, nor from the permanent harm to Musk's reputation, possibly because people kept acting like it was a small price to pay for the EV transition. Now he supports a president who doesn't care about EVs, who dislikes renewables, who is restricting market access to the biggest and cheapest EV manufacturers. And, while I like space tech, to be blunt, Musk's reputation is now so low that I will not only not buy Starlink hardware, but also want to make sure I don't accidentally pay a Musk tax in the form of buying goods or services that paid extra to interoperate with anything Musk owns.

blurbleblurble 2y ago

Even before the Twitter buyout, that guy has exhibited questionable behavior for decades.

mschuster91 2y ago
Not that much to be honest. Yeah, he cycled through spouses, smoked pot live on a podcast and had a sometimes ... reckless attitude, but constantly delivered in exchange - without Musk, we'd still be stuck getting fleeced by ULA/EADS, ICE car manufacturers bribing politicians to soften emissions regulations and satellite internet being GEO only. "Old Musk" was a bit much at times, but acceptable in exchange for how society profited from his unwillingness to accept a "no". "New Musk" has that same unwillingness but is willing to destroy democracy itself, and that makes him orders of magnitude more dangerous.
- blurbleblurble 2y ago
  I beg to differ. The way he bullied business partners has always been trash.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    Yeah but that's just ordinary rich-dude behavior, it's not unique to him by far.
- ben_w 2y ago
  Old musk called a guy a pedo for daring to tell him that a submarine wouldn't help in a cave rescue. Musk didn't learn from getting sued, nor from the permanent harm to Musk's reputation, possibly because people kept acting like it was a small price to pay for the EV transition. Now he supports a president who doesn't care about EVs, who dislikes renewables, who is restricting market access to the biggest and cheapest EV manufacturers. And, while I like space tech, to be blunt, Musk's reputation is now so low that I will not only not buy Starlink hardware, but also want to make sure I don't accidentally pay a Musk tax in the form of buying goods or services that paid extra to interoperate with anything Musk owns.