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The American science funding catastrophe

41 points by nabla9 2y ago

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fzeroracer 2y ago
It's unfortunately entirely inline with their political goals. There's been an ongoing attack on upper education, all sciences etc because they're viewed as being part of the problem. Like how Florida has been taking over and installing stooges in colleges to massive negative effect.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > There's been an ongoing attack on upper education, all sciences etc because they're viewed as being part of the problem Let's be honest, it's coming from both sides. The illiberal left is just as guilty of crucifying academics it disagrees with as the neoauthoritarian right. (Not sure why I feel the need to qualify the latter with neo, but I don't think they'd wilfully authoritarian as much as authoritarian leaning. At least among the rank and file.)
  - fzeroracer 2y ago
    No, it's not.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      In academia? We’ve had folks on the far left cancelling research and teaching for years now. Anti-intellectualism is the domain of extremists of every stripe.
  - bananapub 2y ago
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Dalewyn 2y ago
>you may or may not have realized you were voting for this, exactly, but this is what you’ve gotten. I voted for Trump and I am loving what he has started to do. Small government has been a Republican Party talking point for as long as I can remember, but noone has actually done it. Not even first term Trump. This time it's clearly different, for the first time in my life we are taking gigantic hammers and crowbars to tear the government down to size. Yes, it will be painful for all of us (that includes me too) especially in the short-term, but it's something that I firmly believe needs to happen for an even better future and second term Trump is keeping his campaign promise. We actually got a small glimpse of this during first term Trump when he essentially emptied the State Department and left it that way for the duration of his tenure. The world was surprisingly more peaceful than it ever was and the country did just fine diplomatically, despite loud cries to the contrary. I want more of that. I want an empty State Department again. I want an empty bureaucracy. I want a small, effective, efficient government. And even better, these mandates come with a mandate for judging people on their merits alone. As a minority (Japanese-American) I am ecstatic that DEI has finally been viciously put out to pasture, I firmly believe that All Men Are Created Equal. All of this is what I voted for, I am happy I can get to see it all happen for real. If you disagree, and obviously we do, that's unfortunate but we'll just have to agree to disagree.
- pupppet 2y ago
  > I firmly believe that All Men Are Created Equal. That’s a nice sentiment if you ignore the fact that not all races have historically been treated equally. We may all be running the same rat race together, but a few of us were allowed to leave the starting line early.
  - blased 2y ago
    When does the cut-off happen? Can I claim that I, because of my ancestors in Europe that were routinely bull-dozed by competing empires, deserve compensation?
    - pupppet 2y ago
kasperni 2y ago
Not surprising when universities have been declared the enemy [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw

41 points by nabla9 2y ago

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It's unfortunately entirely inline with their political goals. There's been an ongoing attack on upper education, all sciences etc because they're viewed as being part of the problem. Like how Florida has been taking over and installing stooges in colleges to massive negative effect.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> There's been an ongoing attack on upper education, all sciences etc because they're viewed as being part of the problem Let's be honest, it's coming from both sides. The illiberal left is just as guilty of crucifying academics it disagrees with as the neoauthoritarian right. (Not sure why I feel the need to qualify the latter with neo, but I don't think they'd wilfully authoritarian as much as authoritarian leaning. At least among the rank and file.)
- fzeroracer 2y ago
  No, it's not.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    In academia? We’ve had folks on the far left cancelling research and teaching for years now. Anti-intellectualism is the domain of extremists of every stripe.
- bananapub 2y ago
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Dalewyn 2y ago

>you may or may not have realized you were voting for this, exactly, but this is what you’ve gotten. I voted for Trump and I am loving what he has started to do. Small government has been a Republican Party talking point for as long as I can remember, but noone has actually done it. Not even first term Trump. This time it's clearly different, for the first time in my life we are taking gigantic hammers and crowbars to tear the government down to size. Yes, it will be painful for all of us (that includes me too) especially in the short-term, but it's something that I firmly believe needs to happen for an even better future and second term Trump is keeping his campaign promise. We actually got a small glimpse of this during first term Trump when he essentially emptied the State Department and left it that way for the duration of his tenure. The world was surprisingly more peaceful than it ever was and the country did just fine diplomatically, despite loud cries to the contrary. I want more of that. I want an empty State Department again. I want an empty bureaucracy. I want a small, effective, efficient government. And even better, these mandates come with a mandate for judging people on their merits alone. As a minority (Japanese-American) I am ecstatic that DEI has finally been viciously put out to pasture, I firmly believe that All Men Are Created Equal. All of this is what I voted for, I am happy I can get to see it all happen for real. If you disagree, and obviously we do, that's unfortunate but we'll just have to agree to disagree.

pupppet 2y ago
> I firmly believe that All Men Are Created Equal. That’s a nice sentiment if you ignore the fact that not all races have historically been treated equally. We may all be running the same rat race together, but a few of us were allowed to leave the starting line early.
- blased 2y ago
  When does the cut-off happen? Can I claim that I, because of my ancestors in Europe that were routinely bull-dozed by competing empires, deserve compensation?
  - pupppet 2y ago

kasperni 2y ago

Not surprising when universities have been declared the enemy [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw