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No amount of solidarity from support groups comprising clusters of likeminded folks on internet message boards who're opposed to settled law is a substitute for
by cxr 2y ago
No amount of solidarity from support groups comprising clusters of likeminded folks on internet message boards who're opposed to settled law is a substitute for an act of Congress, which is what it will take to give the position of folks opposed to contemporary GenAI any legs.
Neither your comments to HN nor anyone else's strenuous assertions that there's anything to debate are going to change anything.
If you want to treat LLMs as a special case—which is what you want, since there is an entire history of jurisprudence that you have to contend with here—then you need to get Congress to write legislation that says so.
- Animats 2y ago> act of Congress More than that, a constitutional amendment. See Feist vs. Rural Telephone. The US does not have database copyright or "sweat of the brow" copyright. There has to be human originality.
- AstralStorm 2y agoSo if you collect things in an undisclosed database without archival rights you probably are violating bajillion copyright claims, right? The AI itself can be construed as a special kind of a database, given that it can be queried to reproduce at least part of its training dataset with precision...
- cxr 2y ago> So if you collect things in an undisclosed database without archival rights you probably are violating bajillion copyright claims, right? No.
- xp84 2y agoDoesn’t it usually have to be queried with a bunch of the training material anyway? It’s a pretty foolish sounding argument that one is being harmed if it boils down to “when I type in the first half of my article into GPT it can sometimes complete a few more paragraphs of it” (That’s what the NYT tried to argue/show. I’m not sure if that case is ongoing or settled.)