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On a, u and o diaresis just replace one ambiguity (is it coord-inate or co-or-di-nate) with another (is coördinate supposed to be co-ordinate or co-ördinate wit

On a, u and o diaresis just replace one ambiguity (is it coord-inate or co-or-di-nate) with another (is coördinate supposed to be co-ordinate or co-ördinate with ö pronounced as ö instead of o). On e and i that ambiguity doesn't exist. So I find myself sometimes writing naïve or noël, but never coördinate.

Freak_NL 2y ago
'Coördinate' and the likes make perfect sense to anyone who started out with a language such as Dutch or French where this is common. It's rather refreshing to see it used in English, where usually even the humble 'resumé' must beg for its accent aigu. It never confuses me though, despite being able to read German as well. The mind just shifts to whichever language you're reading and interprets any diacritics accordingly. English just doesn't seem to fall under the 'those are umlauts' category of languages for me.
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- wongarsu 2y ago
  It certainly helps that there are very few words in English that use umlauts, and even fewer where an umlaut following a vowel could happen. I guess theoretically you could form the word Astroübermensch (who knows, maybe that's what Musk will call it when he selects the best people to send to Mars). Then it would be ambiguous whether you mean the übermensch spelling and pronunciation or the more common ubermensch. But that's a stretch
CalRobert 2y ago
In Dutch I appreciate the diaresis in zeeën and the like. Can’t think of an English example though.
- seszett 2y ago
  Naïf... if you can call that English.
  - Symbiote 2y ago
    It's English. Naïve is more commonly known. Very few people would write the dots, but I wonder if that's more because they don't know how to type it than anything else. Here's a list: https://github.com/RichardLitt/diaeresis-word-list https://github.com/RichardLitt/diaeresis-word-list
- maxdamantus 2y ago
  Maybe "cooëeïng", though I don't think I've seen that written with diaereses (probably not a very common word, but it's a nice example of a long vowel letter sequence, and one that people from NZ/Australia should understand).

Freak_NL 2y ago

'Coördinate' and the likes make perfect sense to anyone who started out with a language such as Dutch or French where this is common. It's rather refreshing to see it used in English, where usually even the humble 'resumé' must beg for its accent aigu. It never confuses me though, despite being able to read German as well. The mind just shifts to whichever language you're reading and interprets any diacritics accordingly. English just doesn't seem to fall under the 'those are umlauts' category of languages for me.

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wongarsu 2y ago
It certainly helps that there are very few words in English that use umlauts, and even fewer where an umlaut following a vowel could happen. I guess theoretically you could form the word Astroübermensch (who knows, maybe that's what Musk will call it when he selects the best people to send to Mars). Then it would be ambiguous whether you mean the übermensch spelling and pronunciation or the more common ubermensch. But that's a stretch

CalRobert 2y ago

In Dutch I appreciate the diaresis in zeeën and the like. Can’t think of an English example though.

seszett 2y ago
Naïf... if you can call that English.
- Symbiote 2y ago
  It's English. Naïve is more commonly known. Very few people would write the dots, but I wonder if that's more because they don't know how to type it than anything else. Here's a list: https://github.com/RichardLitt/diaeresis-word-list https://github.com/RichardLitt/diaeresis-word-list
maxdamantus 2y ago
Maybe "cooëeïng", though I don't think I've seen that written with diaereses (probably not a very common word, but it's a nice example of a long vowel letter sequence, and one that people from NZ/Australia should understand).