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Gross revenue and margin rose. Slow iPhone sales were the only weak spot in the report, which is unsurprising given the age of the current model.

swalsh 14y ago
The current model is less then a year old, I think the problem is people are waiting for 4g.
- ceejayoz 14y ago
  With iPhones, "less than a year old" means "the new one's about to come out". My two year plan expired a few months back and I'm holding out for iPhone 5, and I suspect a lot of iPhone 4 purchasers are in the same boat.
  - wiredfool 14y ago
    AT&T was showing some slightly better results this quarter because they were showing fewer people with smartphones upgrading.
  - heretohelp 14y ago
    >I'm holding out for iPhone 5, and I suspect a lot of iPhone 4 purchasers are in the same boat. Yep. Hi. *waves from a 3g-only Verizon iPhone 4 :(
    - zcvosdfdgj 14y ago
      aww... I'm holding an ATT iPhone 4s that says "4g". Maybe Verizon should make the appropriate payment to Apple for an "upgrade"? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401422,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401422,00.asp
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  Not really, as it's only a minor refresh of the original iPhone 4 from most users' point of view.
- jusben1369 14y ago
  ATT mentioned in their earnings call that they've made it harder to upgrade by extending the amount of time you must wait to be able to upgrade. They did it to boost earnings and it helped. That might also explain the softness in the iPhone numbers.
  - fpgeek 14y ago
    Wait, there's more than one way for AT&T to dial back the subsidies it is paying Apple? Who'd have guessed that? I thought their customers wanted the iPhone so badly that they had no choice in the matter. It's also worth noting that upgrade games for iPhone users are quite common outside the US (higher "early upgrade" fee, delayed upgrade eligibility and so on). It isn't terribly surprising to see AT&T borrowing from that playbook (though I suppose they should patent those tricks before Apple does ;) ).
fpgeek 14y ago
Not entirely. The iPad ASP drifting downwards isn't great, especially with an "iPad Mini" rumored to be on the horizon.

swalsh 14y ago

The current model is less then a year old, I think the problem is people are waiting for 4g.

ceejayoz 14y ago
With iPhones, "less than a year old" means "the new one's about to come out". My two year plan expired a few months back and I'm holding out for iPhone 5, and I suspect a lot of iPhone 4 purchasers are in the same boat.
- wiredfool 14y ago
  AT&T was showing some slightly better results this quarter because they were showing fewer people with smartphones upgrading.
- heretohelp 14y ago
  >I'm holding out for iPhone 5, and I suspect a lot of iPhone 4 purchasers are in the same boat. Yep. Hi. *waves from a 3g-only Verizon iPhone 4 :(
  - zcvosdfdgj 14y ago
    aww... I'm holding an ATT iPhone 4s that says "4g". Maybe Verizon should make the appropriate payment to Apple for an "upgrade"? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401422,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401422,00.asp
CamperBob2 14y ago
Not really, as it's only a minor refresh of the original iPhone 4 from most users' point of view.
jusben1369 14y ago
ATT mentioned in their earnings call that they've made it harder to upgrade by extending the amount of time you must wait to be able to upgrade. They did it to boost earnings and it helped. That might also explain the softness in the iPhone numbers.
- fpgeek 14y ago
  Wait, there's more than one way for AT&T to dial back the subsidies it is paying Apple? Who'd have guessed that? I thought their customers wanted the iPhone so badly that they had no choice in the matter. It's also worth noting that upgrade games for iPhone users are quite common outside the US (higher "early upgrade" fee, delayed upgrade eligibility and so on). It isn't terribly surprising to see AT&T borrowing from that playbook (though I suppose they should patent those tricks before Apple does ;) ).

fpgeek 14y ago

Not entirely. The iPad ASP drifting downwards isn't great, especially with an "iPad Mini" rumored to be on the horizon.