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> The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. Well not really. That's what they had warrants for. Obviously they knew about and didn't like the

> The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. Well not really. That's what they had warrants for. Obviously they knew about and didn't like the whole child sex slavery thing. > As for the fires, they happened [six hours] after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government... That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of [militant religious nutjobs inside the compound talking about spreading fuel throughout the compound] Idk

ty6853 2y ago
Obviously the best way to save the children from Koresh is a siege, incendiary weapons, and a tank. Not taking him on his daily run, or first using the sheriff who had rapport with Koreash Even if the ATF/FBI is 0% responsible for the fire they showed an exquisite ability to exacerbate the danger the kids were in. I'm sure it was a total coincidence the same sniper at Waco shot Vicki Weaver, an innocent women with a child in her arms.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  Okay they arrest Koresh outside the compound… then what? Be specific please.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    Your specific concern was Koresh having sex with children. Are you moving the goal posts, or was that not your concern? How does he have sex with kids in adult jail? Or do you mean what should happen when someone doesn't pay $200 for an NFA stamp ( in this case i beleive for alleged machine guns or destructive devices), which is another crime they were accused of. In that case I'd say asset or wage garnishment is a better way to dealing with unpaid taxes.
    - llamaimperative 2y ago
      You were suggesting the raid on Waco was about taxes and all the chaos was totally avoidable. I’m arguing it was not really about taxes and it was almost certainly not avoidable. Neither “arrest him outside” nor “don’t use CS gas” were likely to avoid the outcome. You can prove your point by describing how it was avoidable. If your answer is “let people operate child sex slavery compounds if they’re sufficiently well-armed,” that’s an opinion you’re welcome to hold, but just come out and say it.
      - ty6853 2y ago
        Koresh having further sex with kids is 100% avoidable with him in jail. As far as I know no one else in the compound was accused of diddling children.

ty6853 2y ago

Obviously the best way to save the children from Koresh is a siege, incendiary weapons, and a tank. Not taking him on his daily run, or first using the sheriff who had rapport with Koreash Even if the ATF/FBI is 0% responsible for the fire they showed an exquisite ability to exacerbate the danger the kids were in. I'm sure it was a total coincidence the same sniper at Waco shot Vicki Weaver, an innocent women with a child in her arms.

llamaimperative 2y ago
Okay they arrest Koresh outside the compound… then what? Be specific please.
- ty6853 2y ago
  Your specific concern was Koresh having sex with children. Are you moving the goal posts, or was that not your concern? How does he have sex with kids in adult jail? Or do you mean what should happen when someone doesn't pay $200 for an NFA stamp ( in this case i beleive for alleged machine guns or destructive devices), which is another crime they were accused of. In that case I'd say asset or wage garnishment is a better way to dealing with unpaid taxes.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    You were suggesting the raid on Waco was about taxes and all the chaos was totally avoidable. I’m arguing it was not really about taxes and it was almost certainly not avoidable. Neither “arrest him outside” nor “don’t use CS gas” were likely to avoid the outcome. You can prove your point by describing how it was avoidable. If your answer is “let people operate child sex slavery compounds if they’re sufficiently well-armed,” that’s an opinion you’re welcome to hold, but just come out and say it.
    - ty6853 2y ago
      Koresh having further sex with kids is 100% avoidable with him in jail. As far as I know no one else in the compound was accused of diddling children.