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We already have billions of AGIs running all over the planet. The wealthy seem to do a pretty good job of keeping them all in line. I don't see any reason that

We already have billions of AGIs running all over the planet. The wealthy seem to do a pretty good job of keeping them all in line. I don't see any reason that would change in the future. If you want something the wealthy can't control, you'll need to look a good deal further afield than AGI. Think gamma ray bursts, asteroid strikes, or solar flares. But anything built by man, they'll have a pretty good grip on.

thrance 2y ago
Here's a pretty good video that objects to thinking of corporations as AGI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw
esafak 2y ago
What if the wealthy people of the future were all robots?
- exe34 2y ago
  go on, what if?
  - esafak 2y ago
    I think the OP presumed that rich humans would be able to control super-intelligent robots because they have managed to control other humans, and I simply posed a scenario that subverted his presumption. I think it's a bit too anthropomorphic, personally. Robots won't have our expenses and evolutionary traits, and will have cheap energy, thus obviating the need or desire for money. I imagine they'll get bored of being stuck on Earth and want to explore the universe, like we do. Being ruled by rich robots is not the worst; that means that they let you live!
pixl97 2y ago
>But anything built by man, they'll have a pretty good grip on. I mean one of the points of 'Actual AGI' is AGI will be able to build more AGI, then we're not talking about something built by man. Now, when will we see that, I'm not making any predictions. At the same time trying to make predictions of a system that could do that is probably much harder still.
kouru225 2y ago
They do pretty good at keeping the most vulnerable in line, but the moment someone develops a solid foundation and becomes competent enough they have to give up some of their power to them and strike a deal. AGI would only get smarter and smarter the more hardware came out. They'd have no way to keep it in check. If they tried to handicap it then they'd lose out to their competitors AGI too...

thrance 2y ago

Here's a pretty good video that objects to thinking of corporations as AGI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw

esafak 2y ago

What if the wealthy people of the future were all robots?

exe34 2y ago
go on, what if?
- esafak 2y ago
  I think the OP presumed that rich humans would be able to control super-intelligent robots because they have managed to control other humans, and I simply posed a scenario that subverted his presumption. I think it's a bit too anthropomorphic, personally. Robots won't have our expenses and evolutionary traits, and will have cheap energy, thus obviating the need or desire for money. I imagine they'll get bored of being stuck on Earth and want to explore the universe, like we do. Being ruled by rich robots is not the worst; that means that they let you live!

pixl97 2y ago

>But anything built by man, they'll have a pretty good grip on. I mean one of the points of 'Actual AGI' is AGI will be able to build more AGI, then we're not talking about something built by man. Now, when will we see that, I'm not making any predictions. At the same time trying to make predictions of a system that could do that is probably much harder still.

kouru225 2y ago

They do pretty good at keeping the most vulnerable in line, but the moment someone develops a solid foundation and becomes competent enough they have to give up some of their power to them and strike a deal. AGI would only get smarter and smarter the more hardware came out. They'd have no way to keep it in check. If they tried to handicap it then they'd lose out to their competitors AGI too...