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A very smug comic. It misses 2 main points: 1. The system we have seems to have done a pretty good job, since people are choosing its products, rather than pr

by wisty 2y ago

A very smug comic. It misses 2 main points: 1. The system we have seems to have done a pretty good job, since people are choosing its products, rather than products created by another system. 2. A lot of people will rarely make a larger sacrifice than maybe quitting Twitter for a while despite spending a huge amount of time trying to preach to other people about how important their cause is. Which makes it seem like the noises they make are often just posturing.

inetknght 2y ago
> The system we have seems to have done a pretty good job, since people are choosing its products That's a weird phrase for "people do not have a choice about the products they use" > A lot of people will rarely make a larger sacrifice than maybe quitting Twitter for a while despite spending a huge amount of time trying to preach to other people Speak for yourself. I know plenty of people who want to disconnect but literally cannot because the services they're required to use also require connectivity. > Which makes it seem like the noises they make are often just posturing. Yes, that's the real evil isn't it? When you lack choices or recourse then talk is cheap.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  So which services require social media or any BigTech company?
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- wisty 2y ago
  Talk is cheap, so it's easier than actions. If it was important enough to people, they'd act, even if there were some costs and inconveniences. That's the difference betwen people saying what yhey want, and their revealed preferences. Take climate change, something I suspect we agree on. People won't take individual action, and so it's no shock that they also won't vote for a politician who will promise to force them to take action, unless they are convinced that the costs to them will be small. Also, a hot take - climate change denial is partly virtue signalling by people who'd just rather have other people solve the problem but don't want to admit that. Yeah, big oil propaganda and a hostility between creationists and scientists is also a factor.

by wisty 2y ago

inetknght 2y ago

> The system we have seems to have done a pretty good job, since people are choosing its products That's a weird phrase for "people do not have a choice about the products they use" > A lot of people will rarely make a larger sacrifice than maybe quitting Twitter for a while despite spending a huge amount of time trying to preach to other people Speak for yourself. I know plenty of people who want to disconnect but literally cannot because the services they're required to use also require connectivity. > Which makes it seem like the noises they make are often just posturing. Yes, that's the real evil isn't it? When you lack choices or recourse then talk is cheap.

scarface_74 2y ago
So which services require social media or any BigTech company?
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wisty 2y ago
Talk is cheap, so it's easier than actions. If it was important enough to people, they'd act, even if there were some costs and inconveniences. That's the difference betwen people saying what yhey want, and their revealed preferences. Take climate change, something I suspect we agree on. People won't take individual action, and so it's no shock that they also won't vote for a politician who will promise to force them to take action, unless they are convinced that the costs to them will be small. Also, a hot take - climate change denial is partly virtue signalling by people who'd just rather have other people solve the problem but don't want to admit that. Yeah, big oil propaganda and a hostility between creationists and scientists is also a factor.