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Ooh… which ones? Classic Edgerton’s Fence: If you don’t know why someone put up a fence, don’t take it down.

by freen 2y ago

bobnamob 2y ago
Chesterton's Fence
- freen 2y ago
  Oof. Correct.
llamaimperative 2y ago
Typically, the ones that protect me are good, the ones that slow me down are bad. Easy!
- freen 2y ago
  Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
- ty6853 2y ago
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  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    This Waco? --- PBS: > Rumors about Koresh's sexual practices with girls persisted for years prior to the ATF raid. > Koresh acknowledged on a videotape sent out of the compound during the standoff that he had fathered more than 12 children by several "wives" who were as young as 12 or 13 when they became pregnant. --- Seattle Times: > Children who left the Branch Davidian cult compound said David Koresh gave girls as young as 11 plastic Stars of David that signified they were ready to have sex with him. ----- PBS: > About six hours after the tear gassing began, flames simultaneously erupted at three separate locations on the compound. Audio recorded by the milk-carton bugs suggests the Davidians started the fires, acting on orders from Koresh. > 1st DAVIDIAN: [surveillance tape] Start the fire? > 2nd DAVIDIAN: Got some fuel around here? > 3rd DAVIDIAN: Right here. Can read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/15/us/tapes-from-sect-compound-reveal-talk-of-setting-fire.html https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/15/us/tapes-from-sect-compou...
    - ty6853 2y ago
      The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. As for the fires, they happened after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government. They also sent a tank like vehicle to destroy the building. That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of who knows who.
      - llamaimperative 2y ago
        > The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. Well not really. That's what they had warrants for. Obviously they knew about and didn't like the whole child sex slavery thing. > As for the fires, they happened [six hours] after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government... That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of [militant religious nutjobs inside the compound talking about spreading fuel throughout the compound] Idk
        ty6853 2y ago
        Obviously the best way to save the children from Koresh is a siege, incendiary weapons, and a tank. Not taking him on his daily run, or first using the sheriff who had rapport with Koreash Even if the ATF/FBI is 0% responsible for the fire they showed an exquisite ability to exacerbate the danger the kids were in. I'm sure it was a total coincidence the same sniper at Waco shot Vicki Weaver, an innocent women with a child in her arms.
        llamaimperative 2y ago
        Okay they arrest Koresh outside the compound… then what? Be specific please.
        ty6853 2y ago
        Your specific concern was Koresh having sex with children. Are you moving the goal posts, or was that not your concern? How does he have sex with kids in adult jail? Or do you mean what should happen when someone doesn't pay $200 for an NFA stamp ( in this case i beleive for alleged machine guns or destructive devices), which is another crime they were accused of. In that case I'd say asset or wage garnishment is a better way to dealing with unpaid taxes.

Ooh… which ones? Classic Edgerton’s Fence: If you don’t know why someone put up a fence, don’t take it down.

by freen 2y ago

Ooh… which ones? Classic Edgerton’s Fence: If you don’t know why someone put up a fence, don’t take it down.

bobnamob 2y ago

Chesterton's Fence

freen 2y ago
Oof. Correct.

llamaimperative 2y ago

Typically, the ones that protect me are good, the ones that slow me down are bad. Easy!

freen 2y ago
Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
ty6853 2y ago
[flagged]
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  This Waco? --- PBS: > Rumors about Koresh's sexual practices with girls persisted for years prior to the ATF raid. > Koresh acknowledged on a videotape sent out of the compound during the standoff that he had fathered more than 12 children by several "wives" who were as young as 12 or 13 when they became pregnant. --- Seattle Times: > Children who left the Branch Davidian cult compound said David Koresh gave girls as young as 11 plastic Stars of David that signified they were ready to have sex with him. ----- PBS: > About six hours after the tear gassing began, flames simultaneously erupted at three separate locations on the compound. Audio recorded by the milk-carton bugs suggests the Davidians started the fires, acting on orders from Koresh. > 1st DAVIDIAN: [surveillance tape] Start the fire? > 2nd DAVIDIAN: Got some fuel around here? > 3rd DAVIDIAN: Right here. Can read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/15/us/tapes-from-sect-compound-reveal-talk-of-setting-fire.html https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/15/us/tapes-from-sect-compou...
  - ty6853 2y ago
    The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. As for the fires, they happened after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government. They also sent a tank like vehicle to destroy the building. That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of who knows who.
    - llamaimperative 2y ago
      > The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. Well not really. That's what they had warrants for. Obviously they knew about and didn't like the whole child sex slavery thing. > As for the fires, they happened [six hours] after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government... That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of [militant religious nutjobs inside the compound talking about spreading fuel throughout the compound] Idk
      - ty6853 2y ago
        Obviously the best way to save the children from Koresh is a siege, incendiary weapons, and a tank. Not taking him on his daily run, or first using the sheriff who had rapport with Koreash Even if the ATF/FBI is 0% responsible for the fire they showed an exquisite ability to exacerbate the danger the kids were in. I'm sure it was a total coincidence the same sniper at Waco shot Vicki Weaver, an innocent women with a child in her arms.
        llamaimperative 2y ago
        Okay they arrest Koresh outside the compound… then what? Be specific please.
        ty6853 2y ago
        Your specific concern was Koresh having sex with children. Are you moving the goal posts, or was that not your concern? How does he have sex with kids in adult jail? Or do you mean what should happen when someone doesn't pay $200 for an NFA stamp ( in this case i beleive for alleged machine guns or destructive devices), which is another crime they were accused of. In that case I'd say asset or wage garnishment is a better way to dealing with unpaid taxes.