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Somehow I completely missed this. I mostly stopped using Clojure solely because of the JVM madness (yes, I know about babaskha, won’t use it due to the GraalVM

by rcarmo 2y ago

Somehow I completely missed this. I mostly stopped using Clojure solely because of the JVM madness (yes, I know about babaskha, won’t use it due to the GraalVM dependency and possible Oracle tentacles lurking there) and have fallen back to things like Hy (which can be clunky but at least runs everywhere I have a Python interpreter). Something that has better Clojure-like syntax and uses LLVM aid very appealing, provided it can do (and serve) HTTP requests sanely and has enough batteries included. Any good pointers to existing libraries to get a feel for the ecosystem?

bobnamob 2y ago
As far as I'm aware, jank isn't at the point where libraries exist. It's still under initial development and doesn't implement all of Clojure just yet.
sorry_i_lisp 2y ago
No value judgment, what do you mean by "JVM madness"?
- rcarmo 2y ago
  Slowness and bloat, plus the sheer dependency footprint.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Slower than C, C++, Rust, yeah still faster than most other alternatives, with exception of .NET. What some call bloat, others see saved effort not reinventing wheels.