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> the only way to achieve broad appeal is to not offend anyone's tastes and the only way to do that is to be bland Careful. While I agree with the premise, you

• meiraleal 2y ago
  One can have even broader appeal by offending everyone
  • gffrd 2y ago
    True! On that … - It's generally easier for people to know what they _don't_ like than what they _do_. Preferences are defined by process of elimination. - The commonality is: get lots of people on the same page about you, and you've got a big audience / broad appeal. But the most engaged audience is the one who has strong emotions attached, so being an offender guarantees a ravenous audience … and is generally easier.
• shermantanktop 2y ago
  > Careful. I witnessed a memorable moment at work when an engineer responded to a VP and started by saying “careful.” Had it been another engineer, it would have been ignored as authoritative-sounding filler. But the VP did not take it well.
  • gffrd 2y ago
    I would have loved to seen their expression … That's like an actor breaking character during a play and it pops the bubble of reality the audience has been living in.
  • Bjartr 2y ago
    Do you mind explaining why this was problematic? I'm working to track down things that I say that might be interpreted in ways other than I intend, and this sounds like a mistake I would make. What's the problematic message that's being sent here from the engineer to the VP?
    • websterisk 2y ago
      I suspect that the issue here is that either the VP was insecure or that the engineer said it in an accusatory way (or both). In all likelihood, the engineer meant "that approach/idea/decision has risks we should consider." The VP likely heard "you are suggesting something wrong/dangerous/ignorant." A nuance here is that the engineer probably implied that "(We should be) careful (in our consideration)" and the VP perceived "(You need to be) careful (and you don't seem to be)"
    • hermannj314 2y ago
      You say careful, and their ego probably hears you calling them careless. Careless is typically an avoided behavior so this hurts them. They view themselves as careful and wise. You think they're dumb. (Not necessarily a syllogism, but the ego is weird) I'm possibly paraphrasing and simplifying too much but "How to Win Friends and influence People" mentions being very cautious about correcting people, more so correcting them publically, even when you are correct.
      • Bjartr 2y ago
        > How to Win Friends and influence People Such a good book, I'm about due for a re-read I think.
    • shermantanktop 2y ago
      As stated by another response, it says the speaker thinks the listener is careless. It also places the speaker in a position of authority, admonishing someone who is still learning. "Careful!" is what we say to children. A high-status person may be particularly sensitive to this, but nobody likes to be talked down to. As I alluded, I hear this amongst engineers and filter it out as verbal fluff, so there are cases where it is ok. An easy alternative to "careful" is "I'm not sure about that" or even "I disagree." Both are what peers would say to each other. In scenarios where a high-status person is not receptive to being talked to as a peer, well, you get to add all the deference and qualification you need to, but it comes down to stating disagreement in a non-disagreeable way.