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Brave New World is actually a utopian story told from the perspective of a weird shut-in who only reads Shakespeare and the Bible.

somenameforme 2y ago
Isn't it great to live in a world where everybody is entitled to their own opinions, eccentric though they may be.
- latexr 2y ago
  The (western) world today is incredibly divisive, and differing opinions are not only met with hate but lies are rampant and people in power use this propaganda to keep themselves there, sucking resources from everyone else and cause untold amounts of suffering to satiate their infinite greed. I’m not advocating for a world where people can’t speak their mind, but it does feel like a stretch to call the current situation “great”.
  - pithanyChan 2y ago
    aren't propagating proprietary agendas the foundational problem, constituting the lies and the fraud that both the hate and it's recipients reactive actions result from, not the other way around? it looks like it's not even a cycle, though it might look like one because the coal is shoved top down into the boiling boiler room, to reward and insentivize, the business and marketing psychologists and the disseminatora of the algorithms that keep the information flows to the population as separate as necessary. all under the auspice of cultural friction and artifical obstacles to keep the convection rate as limited as is necessary to keep political and social leaders in fear so that they don't even have to come running for advice when (some)one sparks a civil micro conflict. the older cousin of the "small wars theory" ... a knife attack here, a truck into a christmas market there ... and suddenly people don't need to vote Right, AND their conservative party doesn't have to ruin their image by taking the upRight stance ... the situation demands it, after all, the people need protection
    - latexr 2y ago
      I didn’t understand anything about your comment. Please use capital letters to differentiate sentences—they are useful to help readers parse your ideas, they’re not a stylistic choice. You (seemingly) wrote something full of metaphor and covert examples and made it look like a run-on sentence, which is hard to read.
- notjulianjaynes 2y ago
  No. I want hundreds of people down at the docks having drug fueled orgies in broad daylight on the deck of a battleship. (Been a few years since I read it but pretty sure that's how the book ends ..) None of that real danger shit for me thanks.
briansm 2y ago
And in another drug-parable 'The Matrix', Cypher is actually the hero, advocating the acceptance of the blue-pill retreat into synthetic chemical fantasy as opposed to the harsh depressing truth of reality. His failure ultimately leads to 'system failure' and the deaths of billions of adults unable to mentally deal with their expulsion from the dream-world.
- notjulianjaynes 2y ago
  The buddy-cop television series Limitless spin off series is superior to the Bradley Cooper movie of the same name.
- pickledoyster 2y ago
  The recent Matrix movie is certainly bad, but I strongly believe that a single change would have been cool: in the scenes where it's revealed to the viewer that Neo looks like a different man[1], he should look like Cypher. Someone famous, important, struggling to reintegrate, joylessly chewing on some steak, etc. ... 1. https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2021/09/08/46-1631115261242.png https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2021/09/08/46-1631115261242.p...
  - fatata123 2y ago
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ramesh31 2y ago
>Brave New World is actually a utopian story told from the perspective of a weird shut-in who only reads Shakespeare and the Bible. Moral of the story being that every utopia is, by definition, someone else's dystopia.
SZJX 2y ago
Funny how when I read Brave New World it greatly got on my nerves, mainly due to how it's supposed to be a "dystopian" novel. To me it indeed depicted a dream world in so many ways.

somenameforme 2y ago

Isn't it great to live in a world where everybody is entitled to their own opinions, eccentric though they may be.

latexr 2y ago
The (western) world today is incredibly divisive, and differing opinions are not only met with hate but lies are rampant and people in power use this propaganda to keep themselves there, sucking resources from everyone else and cause untold amounts of suffering to satiate their infinite greed. I’m not advocating for a world where people can’t speak their mind, but it does feel like a stretch to call the current situation “great”.
- pithanyChan 2y ago
  aren't propagating proprietary agendas the foundational problem, constituting the lies and the fraud that both the hate and it's recipients reactive actions result from, not the other way around? it looks like it's not even a cycle, though it might look like one because the coal is shoved top down into the boiling boiler room, to reward and insentivize, the business and marketing psychologists and the disseminatora of the algorithms that keep the information flows to the population as separate as necessary. all under the auspice of cultural friction and artifical obstacles to keep the convection rate as limited as is necessary to keep political and social leaders in fear so that they don't even have to come running for advice when (some)one sparks a civil micro conflict. the older cousin of the "small wars theory" ... a knife attack here, a truck into a christmas market there ... and suddenly people don't need to vote Right, AND their conservative party doesn't have to ruin their image by taking the upRight stance ... the situation demands it, after all, the people need protection
  - latexr 2y ago
    I didn’t understand anything about your comment. Please use capital letters to differentiate sentences—they are useful to help readers parse your ideas, they’re not a stylistic choice. You (seemingly) wrote something full of metaphor and covert examples and made it look like a run-on sentence, which is hard to read.
notjulianjaynes 2y ago
No. I want hundreds of people down at the docks having drug fueled orgies in broad daylight on the deck of a battleship. (Been a few years since I read it but pretty sure that's how the book ends ..) None of that real danger shit for me thanks.

briansm 2y ago

And in another drug-parable 'The Matrix', Cypher is actually the hero, advocating the acceptance of the blue-pill retreat into synthetic chemical fantasy as opposed to the harsh depressing truth of reality. His failure ultimately leads to 'system failure' and the deaths of billions of adults unable to mentally deal with their expulsion from the dream-world.

notjulianjaynes 2y ago
The buddy-cop television series Limitless spin off series is superior to the Bradley Cooper movie of the same name.
pickledoyster 2y ago
The recent Matrix movie is certainly bad, but I strongly believe that a single change would have been cool: in the scenes where it's revealed to the viewer that Neo looks like a different man[1], he should look like Cypher. Someone famous, important, struggling to reintegrate, joylessly chewing on some steak, etc. ... 1. https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2021/09/08/46-1631115261242.png https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2021/09/08/46-1631115261242.p...
- fatata123 2y ago
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ramesh31 2y ago

>Brave New World is actually a utopian story told from the perspective of a weird shut-in who only reads Shakespeare and the Bible. Moral of the story being that every utopia is, by definition, someone else's dystopia.

SZJX 2y ago

Funny how when I read Brave New World it greatly got on my nerves, mainly due to how it's supposed to be a "dystopian" novel. To me it indeed depicted a dream world in so many ways.